I’ve seen a lot of hate floating around for Tucker Carlson calling him an “ANTI-SEMITE!” and saying all sorts of ridiculous things… But I’ve noticed mostly that the people who are saying that are usually the people who have never actually listened to one of his speeches. Very similar to back in 2015 when people HATED Trump and you would ask them “Have you ever attended a Rally or even listened to one online?  Not the media summaries of it, but listened to a full one yourself?” And of course the answer would always be “no”. Also very similar to people who HATE Tesla and you ask them “Have you ever actually driven one?” And of course the answer is almost always “no”. So I wanted to do the same thing with Tucker Carlson right now — I want to play you his full speech at AmFest today and if you think Tucker is anti-semitic or wrong in his beliefs that’s great, more power to you, everyone should have their own opinion — but I want to ask you specifically tell me what in this speech you disagree with. Because I listened to all of it and it seems like the most basic America-First beliefs you can have, and I thought that was the core of this movement? Oh, and before I give you the video, let me show you what Google keeps doing to the Closed Captioning of any Tucker Carlson video I watch recently. This does not happen on ANY other video and I’m certainly not changing the settings myself, but check out how the change the Closed Captioning language to “Arabic” on his video: Of course the implication is that Tucker is some secret Muslim or something, which is absurd. People like Laura Loomer even call him Tucker Qatarlson, making the same slur. But again I challenge you to listen to this speech (or read the transcript I’ve provided below) and then give me specifics if there is something in here you disagree with or think is not “America-First”. I am genuinely eager to read your comments, maybe I will learn something I missed. Watch here: FULL TRANSCRIPT: Thank you. Oh, what a trip. Thank you very much. Oh, yeah. Thank you. Oh, thank you. Walking out is always such a trip at these things. I just—I just got here, and I feel like I missed the first part of the program. I hope I didn’t miss anything meaningful. Um, but I just want to say… I don’t think I did. Um, no, I’m just kidding. I watched it. I laughed. I laughed that kind of bitter, sardonic laugh that emerges from you when, like, upside-down world arrives—when your dog starts doing your taxes and you’re like, “Wait… it’s not supposed to work this way.” To hear calls for, like, deplatforming and denouncing people at a Charlie Kirk event—I’m like, what? This is hilarious. Yeah, this is hilarious. Actually, one of the clips I was listening to myself, thinking—as I often do when I hear myself speak, which is never, because I never watch myself—but at these events I always play, like, the role of you. And I’m like, “That guy is pompous.” Woo. Sorry about that. We don’t see ourselves clearly. Um, but the prediction that, you know, at some point when Republicans took power again—which I did everything I could, uh, you know, to help, and really felt that was important—I still think, you know, I was right. But I really thought that the impulse to deplatform people, or even to use the word “platform” as a verb—which it’s not. It’s a noun. Don’t steal my nouns. Deplatform and denounce. “Why haven’t you denounced somebody else?” The whole, like, Red Guard Cultural Revolution thing that we so hated and feared on the left, that we did everything we could to usher in a new time where you could have an actual debate… I mean, this kind of was the whole point of Charlie Kirk’s public life. And I think that—um—I think that he died for it. I really believe that. And I know a lot about it because the last several months of Charlie’s life were devoted, in part, to arguing about this event. In fact, this speech—in fact, my speech here—which he asked me to do earlier this year, this summer—was immediately put under just immense pressure from people, uh, who give money to Turning Point… I would assume good people, but who wanted him to take me off the roster. And this has all become public, and I—it’s…the whole thing is so sad that I never talk about it, except to say Charlie stood firm in his often-stated and deeply held belief that people should be able to debate. And that if you have something valid to say, if you’re telling the truth, you ought to be able to explain it calmly and in detail to people who don’t agree with you. And that you shouldn’t immediately resort to “Shut up, racist.” You shouldn’t immediately go to motive. By the way, “Shut up, racist” is the number one reason I voted for Donald Trump, because I’m just sick of it. I mean, first of all, if I was a racist—if I was a bigot—I would just say so. Okay? It’s America. You’re allowed to be whatever kind of person you want. I’m not. I’m sincerely opposed. Have always been and will always be. But the style of debate where you prevent the other side from talking or being heard because you immediately go to motive… “Well, I wonder why you’re asking that question. I wonder why. Why are you asking that question? I detect in the question a certain evil in your soul.” And everyone listening should know that listening to you implicates them, and that they someday may be asked to denounce you. And that friendship is not a reason to defend someone. Love is no defense. I kind of thought we’d reached the end of that. And as far as I’m concerned, we have. And I’m not going to play by those rules. I’m not going to engage in that. If someone doesn’t like what I think, fine with me—as long as I get to express it. That’s my view. But since we’re on the topic, I think I should take the opportunity to explain why Charlie was under all this pressure. And I—and I think Erica, who I just saw backstage, and whom I love—and who I can tell you is totally committed to continuing the core principle of Charlie’s public life, which is the right of every person to express what he believes—that is rooted in Christian faith. We believe people should be able to say what they think because they have souls. They’re human beings created by God. They are not slaves. They are not animals. They are not objects. You cannot tell another human being to shut up—even “shut up, racist”—because you don’t own him. He is an independent, autonomous person created by God as an individual, okay? So that’s where that belief comes from. That’s where free speech comes from. And there’s no accident this is the only country in the world that protects it, because our founding documents were informed—as you just heard so nicely expressed by Michael Knowles, my friend—by people who self-consciously incorporated Christian precepts into their structure of government. So Charlie was committed to that, but the people around him were like, “You can’t,” because it’s not that Carlson’s wrong—my only point was I don’t want a land war with Iran. I got over my skis and said I didn’t want another regime-change war with Iran, rather than explain why we should have a regime-change war with Iran, which I’d be happy to listen to. “He’s an anti-Semite. He is an anti-Semite.” To which I said, “Well, obviously that’s not true.” And Charlie said, “I know.” And then it just didn’t stop. So I continued to say, “I’m not an anti-Semite.” “We don’t care what you say. You’re lying. You are.” So, let me just affirm one final time: not only am I not an anti-Semite—and would say so if I was—I’m not an anti-Semite for a very specific reason. Not because it’s unpopular or my donors don’t like it. I don’t have any donors. I’m not an anti-Semite because anti-Semitism is immoral in my religion. It is immoral to hate people for how they were born. Period. But that is not a limited principle. That is a universal principle. It applies to every human being on planet Earth. You may not—you are prohibited by my religion, which is Christianity—from hating people for how they were born, because God created them with His spark, in His image, because they have souls. You can disagree with them. You can hate their ideas. You may even find yourself—and I do, I’ll confess it—hating them for a moment. But you can’t hate everyone who’s like them. You can’t punish people for crimes they didn’t commit. That’s the basis of our justice system. That’s the basis of Christian ethics. That’s why we have what are called human rights. They apply to every human. Not just your group, not just my group, but every group—every human—because we don’t consider people in terms of the groups to which they belong. We consider them as individuals, the way that God created them. So anti-Semitism is not just naughty—it’s immoral. And it is precisely as immoral as hating any other group. And that would include other groups in the United States that are hated and have been under attack for decades. And that would include white men who did nothing to become white men. They were born that way. And just because you have a beef with a white man—let’s just say Donald Trump—doesn’t mean you get to punish all the rest of the white men in the country. And yet our leaders—not just of our Congress, the executive branch under Biden, but of every major U.S. corporation, of every college in the country—probably except Hillsdale and two others—every single one for more than 10 years has engaged in a systematic effort to hurt white men because they are white men. That is racism. That is precisely as bad as anti-Semitism, but it is much more widespread and has been so far much more damaging. And my point is: if you said nothing about that, or if you encouraged it by, say, cheering on BLM—which was an anti-white hate group, and said so—then you have no moral standing to lecture me about bias. Period. Because all bias is the same. You are not allowed to hate people based on their bloodline. We do not believe in blood guilt. We reject blood guilt. That’s why our justice system is just. That’s why our religion is just. Every person has the possibility of transformation. Paul is wandering around—Saul of Tarsus is wandering around—murdering Christians. Then he decides, “Well, I’ll walk to Syria,” and he’s met on the road by Jesus, who changes him, and in one day he becomes the most energetic church planter and apostle of Christianity. In one day he went from enemy to leader. In one day. And that possibility exists for every human being. Every human being. That’s what our Christian faith tells us. That’s also what our eyes tell us. There are no permanent enemies. There cannot be. And I would—I would extend this to even people who attack me from this stage. They say, if we agree on something, I’m happy to be friends with you. You may have been mean to me one day. Well, I was mean to you too. That’s all right. There is always the possibility that we can recognize we have more in common than divides us and come back together. There are no permanent enemies. There is no such thing as blood guilt. And collective punishment in this country, in the Middle East, anywhere on the planet, is totally immoral. And if you want to know what makes America exceptional, it’s that idea. And it’s our job to defend it. So, I guess I would just say to the many organizations now—and particularly this applies to the Anti-Defamation League—which has cheered on anti-white hatred for decades, has attacked anyone who said anything about it, which has been one of the most aggressive cheerleaders for hate against white men in the United States—now trying to lecture the rest of us about hate… I would say it’s enough to point out the irony of that. Come to our side, which is the side of humanity, and oppose all hate against all people. Say out loud, “Hate against whites is every bit as bad as hate against Jews.” It’s a universal principle, or it’s not a principle—it’s just a preference. If it’s not a universal principle, it’s not a principle. It’s just a preference. It’s just identity politics, and we’ve had enough of that. And that’s the one thing that will destroy this country, certainly. The only thing that will save it is the understanding that principles upon which America was founded apply to every single human being always. So I just want to say that by way of saying that I’m not just situationally opposed to anti-Semitism. I’m actually opposed to anti-Semitism. And I hope that the ADL will join me. I’ll send the money, by the way, if they come out against hate aimed at anyone and everyone. I hope they will. But let me just say something more broadly about where the conservative movement—whatever that is—the people who voted for Trump, the Trump coalition, and the supposed civil war going on within that group… I don’t think it’s real. I think it’s fake. I think it’s totally fake. I don’t think—and I’ve had cause to think a lot about this because I’ve been unwittingly involved in the proxy war—there are two things going on here, and I’m not guessing. One is jockeying for position post-Trump. So Trump created this amazing coalition bringing in people who had never voted Republican before but were very enthusiastic about him. And that coalition took over the most powerful government in the history of the world. So there’s a lot—a lot—at stake here. And so the question becomes: who gets to run it after? Who gets the machinery when the president exits the scene? And there are a lot of people in Washington—maybe even in this room—who aren’t quite sure what they want, but they know they don’t want J.D. Vance. Okay? And so the attack—and you heard it from the stage tonight—there’s someone here who’s a very bad man, and he’s friends with J.D. Vance. Could be me. I am sad about being used in a proxy war over politics in which I’m not involved on any level. I’m not an adviser to anybody. But I just think I should say that out loud. Okay. There are people who are mad at J.D. Vance, and they’re stirring up a lot of this in order to make sure he doesn’t get the nomination. That this is true. So this raises the obvious question, which is: why are they mad at J.D. Vance? Such a nice guy, which he is. They’re mad at J.D. Vance because he is the one person—and things could change, of course—but right now, who really kind of buys the core idea of the Trump coalition. Now what is that idea, ladies and gentlemen? Anyone know? Anyone know? America First. It’s America First. It’s really simple. Which I notice some people are pretty anxious to retire that phrase. Remember when they told us that’s a bigoted phrase? Really it is. And then they just decided to ignore it in favor of MAGA: Make America Great Again, which I’m obviously for. But how do you make America great again? By putting America first. Now, what does that mean? I’ll be more precise. It’s not a complicated concept. It’s a really simple concept. The U.S. government, the largest organization in human history with the most well-funded military in history, ought to—in all the decisions it makes—put the interests of American citizens first. That’s it. Oh, that’s creepy. Sounds kind of fascist. You’re going to invade Poland now? No, just the opposite. In fact, the original America Firsters were kind of against wars, and the current ones are too. Actually, it just means what it sounds like. The government ought to serve the people who pay for it, who elected them, in whose name the business of government is conducted. That’s all it means. Now, there are two things to know about this idea. The first is almost everyone’s for that. Like what percentage—if you polled that idea in the supposedly fractious Trump coalition that’s in the middle of a civil war—what percentage of people disagree with that? Well, a few—you know, people whose names you know. “Well, that sounds like America only.” No, it’s not. Just America First. Simple. But, like, probably 95% of Trump voters would be for that. And I bet you, like, probably 70% of people who didn’t vote for Trump would be for that. And if you calmed down and explained it to them, probably like 90%. Why? Because it’s self-evident, like most true things. And moreover—and think this through for a second—there is no other legitimate rationale for running our government. We have self-government. This is a democratic republic. It exists for our benefit. The documents were written that way. The point of the American Revolution was to make that point. And so, if you’re not operating the federal government on behalf of U.S. citizens, you’re illegitimate. You actually have no right to rule. Period. And if you disagree, tell me what the other legitimate justification is. Oh, ’cause my friends, or people I agree with, or in my, you know, interest group… I mean, no. The government must—must—this is non-negotiable—operate on behalf of American citizens. So once you realize that that’s the statement at the center of the debate, it all becomes pretty clear. Really clear, actually. It’s not an ideological debate. There’s nothing ideological about that. I’ve got all kinds of kooky ideological views. I love Knowles’s list of all the views. I probably had most of them in my long and varied life. I have fewer now. I just kind of want to see a good-faith effort to improve the country. That’s it. And I’m ever aware that I’m not exactly sure the right way, a lot of times. Are tariffs the best way to help the country? I don’t know. I hope so. Not an expert. All I really care about is that the people in charge care—that they love the people they lead. That is the first and most important requirement of leadership. A father who loves his children may make mistakes. Probably will. Inevitably will. I did. But if he loves his kids, he’ll do a pretty good job, and they’ll be fine. An officer who loves his men—you know, he can’t control the battle—but they’ll do better than the officer who doesn’t. The president who truly loves his people will over time tend to make wiser decisions on their behalf. But the leaders who don’t care at all—they’ll destroy your country. And that is absolutely what we’ve had. That’s, by the way, not noted as an effort to blackpill you, or an effort to discourage you, or convince you you have no agency or control. You have a lot of control. You just change the government. Good. But if you want to know what the debate is going forward and what your job is going forward, it’s holding your leaders to that very simple standard. Not on tariffs or any of these specific policy questions necessarily, but on their motive. Can you look me in the face and explain to me why the thing that you are doing—the money you’re appropriating—can you tell me why that helps our country and our people? Tell me how. And if you’re doing the whole “shut up racist” thing, then I have a right to question your motives. Actually, why can’t you answer the question? Why can’t you answer that question? Why do you have to imply that some college kid is like some kind of Hitlerite or something because he’s asking about an event? Like, what? By the way, it is okay to ask questions. And I thought that was like the whole reason we were against the left. They’re not going to force you to get up there and make ritual denunciations because this isn’t my religion. It’s politics. By the way, your politics do not trump my love for other people. I remember my brother once said—I have one brother who’s my best friend—and he once said something lunatic, as brothers do. And I remember all these reporters, one from the Washington Post—which used to be a newspaper in Washington—calling me and being like, “Will you denounce your brother?” I said, “Son, if my brother went on a drug-related murder spree, I would not denounce him.” What are you for? Drug-related murder sprees? No, I’m for my brother. And nothing will ever make me not for my brother. Now, I’d probably tell him, “No more drug-related murder sprees for you.” I’m not for that. I’m not for a lot of things, actually. But I will never, ever denounce people I love to satisfy the mob, right? I mean, it’s crazy. So, as you think through, like, what should this movement be, and where’s—what side should you take on the conservative civil war… You already know the answer. You’re on the side of America First. And if they can’t tell you why it’s America First, you just won the argument, because they don’t have one. “Shut up Nazi” is no different from “shut up racist.” It’s a little more annoying, actually. And I would just say this too, because the passion is real, the anger is real. I feel it sometimes. I try not to get involved, but somehow I keep involving myself. Um, and I try not to read the internet because I don’t feel like it’s good for my soul. But, you know—more addictive than cigarettes. I quit cigarettes, not Twitter. I think I’m going back to cigarettes and giving up Twitter. Whatever. I don’t want to burden you. Not kidding, actually. But anyway, the point is you need to remember, if you’re a Christian—and I think there are a lot of them in this room—that Jesus makes demands on you and holds standards for you that are very different from those, as my friend, close friend Russell Brand so beautifully explained, they’re very different from those of the world, which really is controlled by Satan. I—it’s hard even to say that because it’s so dark, but it’s also so true. So don’t be surprised when Jesus sends out the disciples—like, one of my favorite passages in the whole New Testament—when Jesus in Matthew 10 sends the disciples out. He’s just picked them, like, 10 minutes before, and He’s like, “All right, I want you guys—road trip. No money, no clothes, no staff. And by the way, you’re going to get flogged. You’re going to get beaten with whips and arrested.” I’m sure they’re all thinking like, “What? I—you know—I thought we were the winners here.” And when that happens, like, don’t worry about what you’re going to say. The Holy Spirit will speak for you. And I’m like, I just can’t get over the blasé way in which He just tells them the world is going to try and kill you. Which, by the way, it did. I think all of them end up getting killed. And that’s just the baseline. We’re promised that. It’s a fact. You get up and give a speech about Jesus. You talk about Jesus. You try to live out His commands—you’re going to get attacked. Okay, we know that. Don’t whine. Here’s the pitfall. Here’s the trap—is becoming hateful yourself. And I sincerely believe that this—this is a spiritual battle. And I’m not saying everyone who disagrees with me is on the side of evil. I don’t think that. I think I’m often wrong. I know that I am. But I do think that fundamentally this is light versus darkness. I do. And darkness is characterized by rage and division and chaos and confusion. And light is—God is—characterized by the opposite of those things. And I’ve noticed this: there are attempts to make people hateful. One of the reasons people scream insults in your face is to provoke a reaction from you and make you hate them. They want you to hate them. They want you to become what they call you. Why? Because evil feeds on hate. That’s why. So don’t participate in that. And the way that I try to keep myself from becoming what they say I am is by remembering that I am, on the most basic level, no better than my persecutors. I am no better than my persecutors. And that’s why I’m commanded to pray for them, because we have all fallen short of Jesus. Period. And I’m reminded of that every day in the structure of the Lord’s Prayer, where we first are told by Jesus to ask for forgiveness for our sins before we start diagnosing the plank in our neighbor—or the speck in our neighbor’s side. The whole thing begins with: I’m a pompous douchebag. I’ll admit it. That’s essential. It’s essential. We are called to be righteous, but not self-righteous. And we’re also called—and I have to say this before opening it up to your hostile questions—we should also be very on guard against people who try to leverage the word of God, the words of Jesus, for political ends. That is one—that is a dangerous thing to do. I don’t want to do that. And I attempt every time. This is all sort of new to me. I’m so obviously not a great Christian that it’s—it’s not like a lot of people are going to be like, “Oh, I want to be like him.” But there are people, particularly Christian ministers, I have noticed, who are preaching a political message and pretending that it’s the gospel. So, let me just say—and I think my theology is right. I’m hardly a theologian. God is not on any country’s side. Certain countries can decide to be on God’s side. And that is true for people too. Okay? God doesn’t have a partisan affiliation. He doesn’t have a nationality. And if someone is telling you otherwise, that is just not true. It is not true. And I would also call your attention to the very obvious prohibitions in the New Testament against killing the innocent. We are not, as Christians, allowed to kill the innocent. Period. We are not. And you see elaborate arguments on behalf of doing so, or ignoring it. “Oh, that always happens in war.” Well, you’re right. One of the reasons I’m not that into wars. But when it does happen unavoidably, we have to say that’s wrong. We have to say that. We have to acknowledge: that was wrong. And I’m sorry for the extent to which I participated in it. Forgive me. Because killing people who committed no crime is immoral. It will always be immoral. And people who do it will be punished for it. And nations that endorse it will be punished for it. That’s a fact. And you are seeing now—you are seeing now—a very intense effort to convince you otherwise. “Oh, it’s fine. They deserved it.” Really? Do their children deserve it? If a man commits a crime, do we kill his kids? I don’t care if it’s in Minneapolis or Gaza City. No, we don’t. And if we do accidentally, we say, “I am so sorry that we murdered someone who did nothing wrong.” Because it is murder. And to see Christian pastors make excuses for that is one of the most—and that’s not a partisan question. That is not a political question. That is the only question that matters. Do we have the right to murder people? And the resounding answer that Christianity provides us is no. I don’t get into the whole debate—you know—disp… I don’t even—I didn’t even know the terms “dispensationalist,” you know, or whatever replacement… I’m an episcopalian, okay? I don’t enter these debates. My theology is super simple. I like the Beatitudes. Read them yesterday. I actually think—was it Michael reading them, some of them here? I think any person—any honest person—would say it’s the essence of the Christian faith. And killing tens of thousands of children and then making excuses for it on behalf of a foreign government is not in there. It’s antithetical to that. Sorry. It doesn’t make me a hater. It makes me the opponent of hate. So, now that I’ve alienated most in the crowd with my staunch position against violence—and power worship and money worship, which are also prohibited, and we should also keep that in mind. And in all of us is the desire to suck up to power and accumulate money we don’t need. We’re not allowed to. Sorry. Um, anyway. Now that I made everyone mad, are there any questions, uh, that I can answer? Yes. Shout it, baby. I’ll hear it. Okay. We’ve got questions. Hold on. One—one sec. I—I—I just called this lady up front. Republican. So the question was: what do you do if you’re a conservative Republican—and I assume other Republicans don’t want you—because you’re an avowed Christian? Well, first you sit back and you think: how rotten has this whole thing become? If you can’t say you’re a Christian in a conservative group—if you can’t say, “I’m uncomfortable with dudes marrying each other,” or whatever, abortion, or the things that are prohibited by a religion—if you can’t say that in a conservative group, it’s not a conservative group. It’s something else. My name is Madison and I’m 12 years old. When I’m older, I want to be a politician. I’m a Christian and I was just wondering what are the steps I should take to— I’m so sorry, I can’t hear a word you’re saying. I hear two of you, at least. Okay. Um, my name is Madison and I’m 12 years old. I want to be a politician and I was wondering what are the steps I should take to pursue that career. Thank you so much. I heard that you’re 12 years old. Um, and so thank you for asking that question. Um, I think you said, “I want to be a politician. What steps should I take?” Yeah, perfect. Um, well, prayer would be the first one. Does God really want that for you? You seem so nice. Sorry, just kidding. Um, uh, you know, I do think that we are entering into a—obviously—a volatile period. Like, there’s a lot going on. I can’t even keep track of it, and that’s my job. But I also feel like people who are telling the truth, or trying—you know, it’s kind of the best you can do is try. I said something yesterday in public that was totally wrong. Completely wrong. And I—I hate doing that, but it was sincere. I thought it was right. I said, you know, whatever. I’m sorry. I feel like people who try to tell the truth are rewarded for it because there have been too many lies. So my bottom-line advice—I could give you other dumb advice—but my only real advice is just tell the truth always. And if you lose, that’s—that’s okay. Okay. Just don’t touch. Am I good? Hi, Mr. Carlson. I am B—and my name is Annabelle. And we were wondering what you and your wife— You were wondering what I do where— What you and your wife, um, do to strengthen your faith. Oh, what I do to strengthen my faith? I’m—I’m always embarrassed to talk about my faith because it’s so not impressive, but, um, honestly, the main thing I do is I read—I read the Bible every day, which I really enjoy. And I read a version of it called the NLT. And I’m not, you know, fluent in Aramaic or Greek or Hebrew, so I—I can’t tell you that it’s the best. But it has the clearest English. And as a writer and editor, I just love clear English. And I just think it’s amazing. And it’s just opened up all this stuff that I thought was opaque. And I wake up every morning really early, and I drink coffee with my dogs, and I read it by myself. And then my wife comes down and we, like, talk about it. That’s kind of it. But I love it. Yeah. And we do— Is the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, commonly known as AIPAC—is them being in America and not registered with FARA like all other lobbying groups in America—is that America First? Is it—is it America First for senators, Congress, and even our president to take money from AIPAC? Is it America First to take money from a foreign lobby so you’ll send taxpayer dollars to that country? Um, you know, even the question kind of answers itself. Obviously, it isn’t. And that’s not an attack on Israel. Well, it’s certainly not anti-Semitism, despite the efforts of many to claim that it is. It’s just an obvious statement. And the fact that—the fact that people are attacked for asking the question—this is something that I talked to Charlie a lot about, um, in his final months, because he was being attacked as an anti-Semite for asking that question. You know, we’ve memory-holed that, but I was there, so I saw it. That’s not the right way. Don’t attack people’s motives for—and I have a lot to attack people’s motives. I’m trying to remind myself: don’t do that. Respond to what they’re saying, right? And so, no, of course it’s not. And it’s totally fine to ask about why a foreign government tried to sink one of our ships in 1967. That doesn’t make you an anti-Semite. Sorry. Those are Americans who died. Um, and by the—yeah, whatever. Anyway, but the point is, no, of course not. And that’s why they won’t have the conversation. And my point is, you know, I’m 56. My kids are grown. I’m just not afraid of you at all. I don’t hate you or anyone else. I love this country. I’m going to be here till I die. I have an absolute God-given right to ask these questions, and I’m going to keep doing that. Period. And you can shoot me or put me in jail, but the questions won’t go away. So, no, of course it’s not. And that’s why they respond with, like, rage and shame, because you caught them doing something they can’t defend. Duh. Hey, Tucker, how you doing? Thanks for—thanks for taking questions. My name is Michael Lasher, and I’ve come here from Munich, Germany, uh, to introduce you and others to my book, The Same Boat. A guide to heal the divide, and it addresses the cold civil war that’s got us so split. And the goal of it is actually to shift the symmetrical—uh, uh, the symmetry of the bell curve distribution of the political spectrum from what we had at the end of the 2024 election: 52% Trump, 48% Kamala Harris—when everybody in this room thinks it should have been at least 75/25. So, we have a cold civil war going on, and I want to ask you what you think we should be doing to try to solve it. I tell you, I create—I created this communications tool to help bridge the divide, to argue our case for those with whom we can no longer have rational political discussion. Um, it’s a variation of what I said before, but I couldn’t mean it more fervently: orient the Republican Party around the single most popular and true message ever articulated by an American politician, which is: put your own country first. That’s why Trump got elected in 2016. That’s why he’s president now. America First. And don’t think of everything in narrow partisan terms. That’s a trap. Most people agree with that. Most Americans have more in common with each other than they disagree on. And almost everybody agrees on that. And almost everybody is willing to tolerate a good-faith argument about how to get there—except a few. And they’re the ones running around calling everyone an anti-Semite. But everyone else is like, “Yeah, of course that should be the debate.” And they’ll vote for you. They want that, because they know they haven’t had that. That’s the fact. And what you’re watching now—attacking people on the—attacking millions of Americans because they’re Muslims… It’s disgusting. And I’m a Christian. I’m not a Muslim. I’m never going—I know there’s a lot of effort to claim I’m a secret jihadi. I’m not. You should not attack people on those grounds. And you’re seeing it from Republic—what the hell are you doing? What you’re doing is trying to divide the country. And I’ve lived through 50 years of this crap. All these fake race wars that they’re always promoting. “Oh, go hate each other while we loot the treasury.” That’s exactly what’s going on. And most people are totally sick of that. So yes, there is a possibility for a huge coalition of decent people once they free their minds from the traps set for them by others and realize: wait a second—we all want to make this country better. And the 15% or 30% who don’t… okay, you know—good luck in Maryland or wherever you wind up—but the rest of us would like to fix it. And hand it to him. It’s important. Tucker. Tucker. My name’s Harrison Tinsley. I’m a single dad in California. Didn’t get to meet him till I was 15 months old just ’cause I’m conservative. One-half custody. His mom tried to trans him. Long story short, I have full custody now. And it’s a dream come true. Thank you. But it’s a miracle. And praise God, ’cause I know so many dads that all have zero custody because of this. So Marjorie Taylor Greene’s bill, Protect Children Innocence Act, just passed the House. Can we pass it in the Senate and finally end this gender insanity—mutilating, hurting kids? And will you—last part—pull your face back from the microphone so I can hear you. And will you interview me? Am I going to interview detransitioned people? Is that the question? No. No. Me, as a dad. And can we finally stop the mutilation of children with Marjorie Taylor’s bill? Okay. Um, I’m just going to say: when I was a child, we did a lot of bird hunting, and my father would always say when my brother and me say, “Pop, you know, everyone wears earplugs,” and he would just say, “Pull the filter off your Marlboro and stick it in your opposite ear.” And that actually, at 56, made it really hard for me to hear microphone questions. So, you asked—and I’ll just answer this and stop—you asked about Marjorie Taylor Greene’s bill to ban the mutilation of children, which for some reason seems to have a lot of trouble getting through the House of Representatives, which is controlled by Republicans. And if there’s ever a clearer example of whose side they’re on, I can’t think of it. ’Cause at least on some of the foreign policy stuff, they can tell you, “No, no, no. We have to be at war with Russia because Putin’s bad. He’s just bad. He’s bad.” Okay, got it. We have to kill all the kids in Gaza because otherwise the Gazans will come here and kill us. Okay. What’s the potential excuse for allowing the sexual mutilation of children? At that point, I’m like, you know, I don’t want to question people’s motives, but I’m starting to wonder. And I do think it just gets back to: you have to demand more from your members of Congress, from your leaders more broadly. You’re not allowed to sell us out again. Because if you keep doing that, people get radical and hateful, and then they get desperate because they realize their vote doesn’t matter. And that’s when things start to go sideways in a way that nobody wants. So yeah, if you can’t even ban the castration of children, I hope there is a list—and I’ve been traveling today—but I hope on the internet there’s a list of everyone who voted against that effort, and I hope that they are punished for it. I mean, they will be ultimately, but I hope they’re punished in this life. Anyway, thank you very much. I remember my brother once said—I have one brother who’s my best friend—and he once said something lunatic, as brothers do. And I remember all these reporters, one from the Washington Post—which used to be a newspaper in Washington—calling me and being like, “Will you denounce your brother?” I said, “Son, if my brother went on a drug-related murder spree, I would not denounce him.” What are you for? Drug-related murder sprees? No, I’m for my brother. And nothing will ever make me not for my brother. Now, I’d probably tell him, “No more drug-related murder sprees for you.” I’m not for that. I’m not for a lot of things, actually. But I will never, ever denounce people I love to satisfy the mob, right? I mean, it’s crazy. So, as you think through, like, what should this movement be, and where’s—what side should you take on the conservative civil war… You already know the answer. You’re on the side of America First. And if they can’t tell you why it’s America First, you just won the argument, because they don’t have one. “Shut up Nazi” is no different from “shut up racist.” It’s a little more annoying, actually. And I would just say this too, because the passion is real, the anger is real. I feel it sometimes. I try not to get involved, but somehow I keep involving myself. Um, and I try not to read the internet because I don’t feel like it’s good for my soul. But, you know—more addictive than cigarettes. I quit cigarettes, not Twitter. I think I’m going back to cigarettes and giving up Twitter. Whatever. I don’t want to burden you. Not kidding, actually. But anyway, the point is you need to remember, if you’re a Christian—and I think there are a lot of them in this room—that Jesus makes demands on you and holds standards for you that are very different from those— as my friend, close friend Russell Brand so beautifully explained—very different from those of the world, which really is controlled by Satan. I—it’s hard even to say that because it’s so dark, but it’s also so true. So don’t be surprised when Jesus sends out the disciples—like one of my favorite passages in the whole New Testament—when Jesus in Matthew 10 sends the disciples out. He’s just picked them like 10 minutes before. He’s like, “All right, I want you guys—road trip. No money, no clothes, no staff. And by the way, you’re going to get flogged. You’re going to get beaten with whips and arrested.” I’m sure they’re all thinking like, “What? I—you know—I thought we were the winners here.” And when that happens, like, don’t worry about what you’re going to say. The Holy Spirit will speak for you. And I’m like, I just can’t get over the blasé way in which He just tells them the world is going to try and kill you. Which, by the way, it did. I think all of them end up getting killed. And that’s just the baseline. We’re promised that. It’s a fact. You get up and give a speech about Jesus. You talk about Jesus. You try to live out His commands—you’re going to get attacked. Okay, we know that. Don’t whine. Here’s the pitfall. Here’s the trap—is becoming hateful yourself. And I sincerely believe that this—this is a spiritual battle. And I’m not saying everyone who disagrees with me is on the side of evil. I don’t think that. I think I’m often wrong. I know that I am. But I do think that fundamentally this is light versus darkness. I do. And darkness is characterized by rage and division and chaos and confusion. And light is—God is—characterized by the opposite of those things. And I’ve noticed this. There are attempts to make people hateful. One of the reasons people scream insults in your face is to provoke a reaction from you and make you hate them. They want you to hate them. They want you to become what they call you. Why? Because evil feeds on hate. That’s why. So don’t participate in that. And the way that I try to keep myself from becoming what they say I am is by remembering that I am, on the most basic level, no better than my persecutors. I am no better than my persecutors. And that’s why I’m commanded to pray for them because we have all fallen short of Jesus. Period. And I’m reminded of that every day in the structure of the Lord’s Prayer, where we first are told by Jesus to ask for forgiveness for our sins before we start diagnosing the plank in our neighbor—or the speck in our neighbor’s side. The whole thing begins with: “I’m a pompous douchebag.” I’ll admit it. That’s essential. It’s essential. We are called to be righteous, but not self-righteous. And we’re also called—and I have to say this before opening it up to your hostile questions—we should also be very on guard against people who try to leverage the word of God, the words of Jesus, for political ends. That is one. That is a dangerous thing to do. I don’t want to do that. And I attempt every time. This is all sort of new to me. I’m so obviously not a great Christian that it’s—it’s not like a lot of people are going to be like, “Oh, I want to be like him.” But there are people, particularly Christian ministers, I have noticed, who are preaching a political message and pretending that it’s the gospel. So, let me just say—and I think my theology is right. I’m hardly a theologian—God is not on any country’s side. Certain countries can decide to be on God’s side. And that is true for people too. Okay? God doesn’t have a partisan affiliation. He doesn’t have a nationality. And if someone is telling you otherwise, that is just not true. It is not true. And I would also call your attention to the very obvious prohibitions in the New Testament against killing the innocent. We are not, as Christians, allowed to kill the innocent. Period. We are not. And you see elaborate arguments on behalf of doing so or ignoring it. “Oh, that always happens in war.” Well, you’re right. One of the reasons I’m not that into wars. But when it does happen unavoidably, we have to say that’s wrong. We have to say that. We have to acknowledge that was wrong. And I’m sorry for the extent to which I participated in it. Forgive me because killing people who committed no crime is immoral. It will always be immoral. And people who do it will be punished for it. And nations that endorse it will be punished for it. That’s a fact. And you are seeing now—you are seeing now—a very intense effort to convince you otherwise. “Oh, it’s fine. They deserved it.” Really? Do their children deserve it? If a man commits a crime, do we kill his kids? I don’t care if it’s in Minneapolis or Gaza City. No, we don’t. And if we do accidentally, we say, “I am so sorry that we murdered someone who did nothing wrong.” Because it is murder. And to see Christian pastors make excuses for that is one of the most—and that’s not a partisan question. That is not a political question. That is the only question that matters. Do we have the right to murder people? And the resounding answer that Christianity provides us is no. I don’t get into the whole debate—you know—disp… I don’t even—I didn’t even know the terms “dispensationalist,” you know, or whatever replacement… I’m an episcopalian, okay? I don’t enter these debates. My theology is super simple. I like the Beatitudes. Read them yesterday. I—I actually think—was it Michael reading them, some of them here? I think any person, any honest person, would say it’s the essence of the Christian faith. And killing tens of thousands of children and then making excuses for it on behalf of a foreign government is not in there. It’s antithetical to that. Sorry. It doesn’t make me a hater. It makes me the opponent of hate. So, now that I’ve alienated most in the crowd with my staunch position against violence, and power worship and money worship—which are also prohibited—and we should also keep that in mind. And in all of us is the desire to suck up to power and accumulate money we don’t need. We’re not allowed to. Sorry. Um, anyway. Now that I made everyone mad, are there any questions, uh, that I can answer? Yes. Shout it, baby. I’ll hear it. Okay. We’ve—we’ve got questions. Hold on. One—one sec. I—I—I just called this lady up front. Republican. So the question was: what do you do if you’re a conservative Republican, and I assume other Republicans don’t want you because you’re an avowed Christian? Well, first you sit back and you think: how rotten has this whole thing become? If you can’t say you’re a Christian in a conservative group—if you can’t say, “I’m uncomfortable with dudes marrying each other,” or whatever, abortion, or the things that are prohibited by a religion—if you can’t say that in a conservative group, it’s not a conservative group. It’s something else. [Ad content removed] I have just three dog commands, and then as I direct the dogs: “Find the bird.” Find the bird. And then “Dead bird,” obviously, which I don’t use as much as I’d like to. See you on the other side. It’s called American Game: Tales from the Wild, Outdoor Series. Watch you at tucker carlson.com. And before I go, two related reports you don’t want to miss. While some like Laura Loomer call Tucker an “ANTISEMITE” what they don’t realize is the term doesn’t even remotely mean what they think it means. Here’s the truth: Did You Know “Antisemitism” Doesn’t Mean What Everyone Thinks It Means? Created By A Notorious Jew-Hater In 1879 As A Smear! And we will end with this.... About a month ago, Tucker took the time to outline the FIVE Pillars of MAGA, which really boils down to one pillar of "America-First". I thought it was so good I memorialized it here and I encourage all of you to bookmark it, print it and save it: Tucker Carlson Reveals The FIVE PILLARS of MAGA — Save This! Tucker Carlson just put out what I believe is one of the most important videos he's ever published. And I'm urging all of you to not only read this article and watch the video but then to share it around and bookmark it.  Save it.  Keep it. Because from almost Day 1, the RINOs and Neocons in the Republican Party have tried to co-opt  MAGA, tried to take it over as their own -- nothing more than fancy wrapping paper to put over their toxic platform. People like Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz and John Thune and Mike Johnson. They're not MAGA. They're trying to ride the MAGA coattails because they know it helps them stay in office, but they don't stand for anything MAGA actually stands for. Which begs the question....what is MAGA? What are its core principles, its core tenets? I firmly believe President Trump will take a third term in 2028 (more on that here, from my report last night: https://wltreport.com/2025/10/23/breaking-steve-bannon-says-president-trump-has-top/) but at some point Trump will be gone and we will either carry MAGA forward of we will lose it. But how will we carry it forward if we don't have its core tents clearly and succinctly defined and written down? History and entropy tell us that the odds are greatly against us carrying MAGA forward after Trump is gone, but I'm not ok with that. And Tucker is not ok with it either. It's why he just put out this new video which I think is one of the most important videos he's ever released. Because it summarizes very nicely the last 10 years of everything we've heard from President Trump on the core of what makes up MAGA. Trump has told us, time and time again.  In fact, his repetition of these concepts has been incredible, but did anyone stop to write them down?  Organize them?  Package them up for future generations? Tucker did. And now I am sharing them with you. Bookmark this article.  Share it.  Print it out.  Vision dies if it is not constantly repeated and people perish for lack of vision. MAGA will perish if we all don't constantly make clear these are the values and principles and ideals that MAGA is built upon. It's not hard, there are only 5 of them and I'll put them right here: America First — the government must act for the benefit of its own citizens. Borders — a nation has the right to decide who enters. No More Pointless Wars — only defend our own. Bring Back Real Jobs — rebuild the productive economy. Free Speech — the cornerstone of liberty. Now please enjoy this excellent video and share it with everyone you know: TRANSCRIPT: Tucker Carlson: So, there’s this scene in Animal Farm. It’s the last scene in the novel — the famous George Orwell novel — the one less referred to than 1984, but in some ways a lot better. And there’s this scene where the pigs and the men are playing cards at a table. Now, for the course of the novel, the pigs are leading the animals — the animals of the farm — in rebellion against the men whose cruel and capricious and greedy leadership has kind of wrecked the farm. They’ve risen up collectively to take back what’s theirs — the means of production — and they’re going to distribute the fruits equally, and everything is going to be fair and equitable and things are going to be great. And the pigs naturally rise to the top of the hierarchy because they’re the smartest. Following them are the stalwart horses and the sweet-tempered, trusting cattle — all the way down the chain. So it’s left to the pigs to negotiate with the men, the former farm owners. And of course they hate the men, right? They’re the declared enemies of the men. And in the final scene, the other animals are gathered outside the house, noses pressed against the glass — and the pigs are sitting inside, basically partying with the men. For a moment, they become indistinguishable. You can’t tell the pig from the man. They’ve melded into one. In other words, the movement the pigs led has been completely corrupted and become the mirror image of what it purported to be. And the reason, of course, was that Orwell was describing the Soviet leadership — which overthrew an aristocracy only to install its own, even more tyrannical and genocidal version. But it really describes almost all human organizations — which, unless you’re careful and thoughtful and get into the consistent habit of restating your principles out loud, most organizations wind up resembling whatever force they were created to fight against. They become inversions of themselves — mirror images of what they were intended to be. This is just the way things are. It certainly happened to the Democratic Party, by the way, in our lifetimes. Forty years ago, the Democratic Party was the party of what? Peace and human rights, and against big business. Since the Clinton years, of course, it has been the opposite of those things. The Democratic Party has been the defender of oligarchy and the main driver of war — and, of course, the great proponent of censorship, the opponent of human rights. “My body, my choice,” they say — as they force you to take the COVID vax. This has been noted quite a bit. There’s a pretty good book written about it several years ago — Ship of Fools. Sorry. But this can happen not just to the Democratic Party or the Communist Party — the Bolshevik Party of 1917 — it can happen to really any party, including the Republican Party, including the party of MAGA. It hasn’t happened necessarily — but there are people who would like it to happen. And so, without attacking them personally, and with the sincere belief that they’re acting out of what they think are good intentions — trying to subvert a movement that they did not create and had nothing to do with — they’re doing it for reasons they think are valid. Taking out the possibility that they’re just evil and trying to destroy something, giving them every benefit of every doubt — there are some highly aggressive people in Washington, D.C., who are trying to turn the MAGA movement into the opposite of what it was created to be. The opposite of what voters hoped it would be when they voted for it — what tens of millions of Americans believed it was. And so before that happens completely, and before we forget what MAGA once was, it’s probably worth stating in very clear terms what it is. What is MAGA? Well, MAGA of course means “Make America Great Again.” It’s an acronym. But what does that mean, exactly? We don’t have to guess, because Donald Trump, for ten years — ten full years, 2015 to 2025 — has been articulating again and again and again, with a remarkable level of repetition, five consistent themes about what this is. What is MAGA? Let’s go through and name and explain the five pillars of MAGA. It’s not exactly the Bill of Rights, but in political terms, it’s meaningful. These are the founding principles of the governing political coalition that runs the United States right now, and they are too rarely articulated. So let’s do that. Pillar One: America First What is the first pillar of MAGA? Well, of course it’s America First. Here’s Donald Trump, before he got the nomination for president — in the spring of 2016 — explaining what “America First” means: “My foreign policy will always put the interests of the American people and American security above all else. Has to be first. Has to be. That will be the foundation of every single decision that I will make. America first will be the major and overriding theme of my administration.” That was April 27, 2016. At the time, Donald Trump had been elected to nothing. He hadn’t even officially secured the nomination. Ted Cruz was still running against him until the Indiana primary the next month. He was still just a candidate — totally unproven. But the central theme of the next ten years of his political life — and of the country’s political life — is right there in that clip: America First. The purpose and duty of the American government is to represent the United States of America. Another way to put it would be: the duty of the U.S. government is to make good on the core promise of democracy — that the country operates on behalf of its owners, the citizens of that country. It would seem very obvious. Of course, Trump was attacked for it immediately. He was called an anti-Semite — you may not remember this, but he was — because he used a phrase that Charles Lindbergh, who was not an anti-Semite but did oppose American entry into World War II (along with tens of millions of other Americans), used very often. The “America First” movement was the American movement of the late 1930s and early 1940s pushing the Roosevelt administration away from joining a war in Europe. It didn’t mean they were pro-Nazi. Many of them were very anti-Nazi. They just didn’t think the United States had a role in that war. But when Trump used the phrase “America First,” he was attacked as some sort of moral deviant. Yet the idea itself was so self-evidently true — so obvious — that for a lot of people, even non-Republicans, a light bulb went off: Wait a second — you mean the government doesn’t operate on that principle? We always assumed our government, which we pay for and which acts in our name, was always operating on our behalf. And it took Donald Trump’s entry into politics in 2015 to awaken the rest of the country to the fact that many of the biggest decisions our government makes have no reference point at all in American interest. They just don’t care whether it’s good for the United States. Well, that’s not only anti-democratic — it’s illegitimate. If you have a democratic republic whose government is not acting on behalf of its citizens, you don’t have a legitimate government. That’s grounds for overthrowing the government, actually. So people were shocked by this — and Trump was attacked — but of course, you know the rest. He went on to win the nomination and the presidency that year really on the basis of that idea: America First. You can have only one true allegiance, and it needs to be to the United States. You can’t have dual citizenship because you can’t have dual loyalty — in the same way that polygamy, for whatever its benefits, doesn’t work very well in the long run. You can’t be truly loyal to two wives — and you can’t be truly loyal to two countries. Sometimes their interests intersect, but very often they diverge — and when they do, you have to pick one. It has to be the path that serves the country that you live in — and that’s the United States of America. America First. That’s the first principle of MAGA, and every decision that this ruling coalition makes has to be made through the lens of America First. Period. Pillar Two: Borders But there are four remaining pillars that derive from the first. The second point Trump made again and again — and rode to the presidency on — is that the country has to control its borders. If you do not control your borders, you are not a country. A nation-state is a physical place — identifiable on a map. It has borders. There’s a difference between ten feet on this side and ten feet on the other. Different laws, different customs, different languages. One’s this country, the other’s that country. You can’t have a “global country.” It doesn’t work — and it’s inherently tyrannical. And Trump made that point again and again by saying, famously: Build that wall. “We’re going to have strong, incredible borders, and people are going to come into our country — but they’re going to come in legally. We’re going to build a wall. It’s going to be built.” That was almost ten years ago. The wall has not been built. Despite what you may hear, there is not a wall spanning the U.S.–Mexico border. There are portions of wall, but for a bunch of reasons, it hasn’t been completed. And that reveals a lot — most notably, the resistance to that idea in Washington. It turns out, as we learned during that campaign, that the Republican Party didn’t want to build a wall. That’s why they’d never tried. They didn’t want distinct borders because they weren’t nationalists — they were globalists. So, by saying “Build the wall,” Trump not only revealed that reality, he illuminated the nature of the people running the country — deceptive and rotten. They resisted then, and they still resist border control today. They deny that the native, American-born population is being replaced — but it is. That’s not a conspiracy theory; it’s a measurable reality shown clearly in census numbers. The resistance of both parties to acknowledging that simple mathematical fact tells you everything about their intent. It’s sinister. They want it. And a lot of those people are Republicans. They’ve disliked Trump from day one for pushing this truth. But because he said it out loud, the rest of us should be forever grateful. That’s pillar two: a country must have real borders. The people who live in the country have a moral and legal right to choose who else joins them — in the same way that a homeowner has a right to decide who sleeps in his house. If it’s our country, we determine who lives next door. And if it’s not, we don’t. It’s literally that simple. Pillar Three: No More Pointless Wars The third pillar of MAGA — something Trump articulated from day one — is that the “War on Terror,” and all pointless wars that don’t serve America’s direct national interest, are destructive. Wars not waged in self-defense — wars not repelling invasion — are corrosive. They’re incredibly expensive, and they kill Americans. They’re almost never waged to serve our interests but instead to serve others. Trump said this for the first time in the February 2016 GOP primary debate in Greenville, South Carolina, when he looked Jeb Bush in the eye and said, “The Iraq War was a disaster.” At the time, that was considered shocking. People couldn’t believe he said it. But thanks to Trump, people woke up. No matter what the “briefing book” said, the truth was that those who had fought and suffered in these wars were the leastlikely to want more of them. They’d had enough. Trump kept up this theme, and in many ways, it was the most controversial — yet most powerful — thing he ever said: “We are never going back to a party that wants to give unlimited money to fight foreign wars that are endless, stupid wars. I was the only president in modern history who did not have any new wars. No new wars. I finished some old ones.” That was March 2023 at CPAC. Every time Trump said that — even at the U.N. — he got wild applause. If you asked 100 people who voted for Trump in 2016, 2020, and 2024 why they voted for him, the overwhelming majority would include: “No more pointless wars.” Because since 2001, we’ve had an endless succession of them — and we haven’t won a single one. Not one. Every single one has weakened the United States and hurt Americans. One of the reasons we have an opioid crisis is because of those wars. And none of them were waged on behalf of us. They were for others — our “allies” — or some ridiculous notion about “turning the Middle East into Western Europe.” Trump alone said no. And guess what? He won. That’s pillar three. Pillar Four: Bring Back Real Jobs Donald Tr