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CNN Host Gets Grilled By VA Secretary on Malicious Defamation of Navy Veteran
For the first time on CNN since the ruling came out in January, CNN viewers finally got an inkling of the fact that the network was found liable for malicious defamation of Navy veteran Zachary Young. No, it wasn’t because the network finally decided to be open an honest with their viewers; it was because Veterans Affairs Secretary Doug Collins demanded answers on behalf of “one of my veterans” on Wednesday night. His insistence on getting answers left The Source host, Kaitlan Collins bewildered.
Despite Doug Collins not being involved with the controversial group chat on Signal between other cabinet members and him already answering her questions about it, Kaitlan decided to pester him about it some more instead of talking about veterans. “Yes, and I do have questions about the veterans. But given what we saw with the group chat…Is this typical for the Cabinet to have conversations over Signal? Is this something that you use?” she wanted to know.
Noting that his host “undoubtedly [did] not want to talk about the V.A.” and “my job is to take care of veterans,” Doug spun the tables around on Kaitlan. Eyes going wide, Kaitlan squirmed in her seat as he mentioned the network’s great taboo:
And I would like to know why CNN is hostile to veterans, especially one in Florida, where you just had a $5 million defamation suit, taking offense at a veteran who was trying to help people. In fact, one of your employees actually said, ‘We're going to nail him.’
I have a question for you, Kaitlan. Is that employee still employed? Are you really concerned about veterans? So, if we don't want to talk about veterans now, and you want to talk about everything else, I'd like to hear from CNN, as the Veteran Cabinet Secretary, why CNN seems to have a problem with veterans?
What Kaitlan refused to answers was, yes, the reporters responsible for defaming Young (chief national security correspondent Alex Marquardt, intelligence and national security reporter Katie Bo Lillis, and host Jake Tapper) were all still employed by CNN. In fact, CNN gave Marquardt a promotion amid the case proceedings.
Kaitlan desperately tried to deflect away from the truth that Doug spoke. “Well, Mr. Secretary, respectfully, my question was about whether or not you, as a member of the Cabinet use this,” she tried to say, but Doug kept pressing.
Possibly a Freudian slip for how CNN thinks themselves authority figures, Kaitlan bizarrely described their conversation as her “investigation.” “And respectfully, I'm conducting the investigation. And I do have a lot of questions for you, on Veterans Affairs. But I don't think it would be unwarranted to ask if you as a member of the Cabinet [use Signal],” she huffed.
That holier-than-thou attitude was part of what got CNN in trouble with the Bay County, Florida jury.
“What you want to do is talk about a subject that I have already answered,” he said. “And it does mean no good to speculate on something that I've already asked and answered. So I've asked and answered your question.”
The Secretary continued to try to get answers: “Why don't you answer mine? Are you still in -- is this person still employed, who said they were going to nail one of my veterans, who you had to do a $5 million award from a jury because of defamation, and then you settled the case? Answer my question.”
“Respectfully, sir, I'm asking the questions here,” Kaitlan shot back before trying to tone thing down a bit by noting: “I have no involvement in what you're referencing there.” The conversation then quickly pivoted to actually talking about veteran affairs.
The transcript is below. Click "expand" to read:
CNN’s The Source
March 26, 2025
9:23:28 p.m. Eastern
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KAITLAN COLLINS: Yes, and I do have questions about the veterans.
But given what we saw with the group chat, and how this was used. You are a member of the Cabinet. You obviously know these other members, several of them who were in there. Is this typical for the Cabinet to have conversations over Signal? Is this something that you use?
V.A. SECRETARY DOUG COLLINS: Well, Kaitlan, since you undoubtedly do not want to talk about the V.A. I have a question, as V.A. Secretary, as Cabinet, I want to ask you, because I've been curious about this, because my job is to take care of veterans.
And I would like to know why CNN is hostile to veterans, especially one in Florida, where you just had a $5 million defamation suit, taking offense at a veteran who was trying to help people. In fact, one of your employees actually said, ‘We're going to nail him.’
I have a question for you, Kaitlan. Is that employee still employed? Are you really concerned about veterans? So, if we don't want to talk about veterans now, and you want to talk about everything else, I'd like to hear from CNN, as the Veteran Cabinet Secretary, why CNN seems to have a problem with veterans?
K. COLLINS: Well, Mr. Secretary, respectfully, my question was about--
D. COLLINS: No, answer my question, Kaitlan.
K. COLLINS: --whether or not you, as a member of the Cabinet use this.
D. COLLINS: Answer my question, Kaitlan.
K. COLLINS: And respectfully, I'm conducting the investigation. And I do have a lot of questions for you, on Veterans Affairs. But I don't think it would be unwarranted to ask--
D. COLLINS: No, Kaitlan, what you want to do is you want to talk about a subject--
K. COLLINS: --if you as a member of the Cabinet--
D. COLLINS: What you want to do is talk about a subject that I have already answered. And if you want to continue this, like this, that's fine. But there are V.A. employees, who are working very hard. There are veterans who get their care from the V.A., and they get their benefits from the V.A. And it does mean no good to speculate on something that I've already asked and answered. So I've asked and answered your question.
Why don't you answer mine? Are you still in -- is this person still employed, who said they were going to nail one of my veterans, who you had to do a $5 million award from a jury--
K. COLLINS: Sir--
D. COLLINS: --because of defamation, and then you settled the case? Answer my question.
K. COLLINS: Respectfully, sir, I'm asking the questions here –
D. COLLINS: No, I am right now.
K.COLLINS: -- and I have no involvement in what you're referencing there.
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