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Of Course: MS NOW Compares Administration's Minnesota Reaction To Hitler
MS NOW’s Ali Velshi’s weekend show is the place to go if you desire to hurl a Nazi analogy at the Trump administration. This Saturday, Godwin’s Law was fulfilled by progressive radio host Thom Hartmann, who compared the administration’s Minneapolis response to Hitler doing away with state autonomy in 1934.
Velshi began by quoting Hartmann’s recent Substack article, “You said, could this be what the end of a would-be dictatorship looks like? In which you say, ‘They're doubling down,’ meaning the government, ‘because they know their time is limited, their attempt to turn America into a Russia-like police state is suddenly failing, and a reckoning is coming. Trump and his lickspittles look at the horizon and see mushroom clouds rising against a red sky, suggesting their season of power and brutality is about to turn on them.’”
He then added, “And I would say, Thom, that half the time I feel that that's right. Half the time I feel like they've overstepped, and the American people are ready to say, 'we've got the power to change this.'”
Hartmann began his response by essentially repeating the essence of the quote Velshi read, “On the one hand you've got Trump about to lose some considerable power. Mark Pocan pointed this out on my program last week, Congressman Mark Pocan, that there are numerous Republicans who, once their primaries are done, which is, you know, kind of the April through July season, that will probably turn on Trump, at least according to what they're saying to him. But they're terrified of losing their primaries. So, he's got this maybe six-month window.”
Then came the Hitler comparison, “On the other hand, if he can lock down state and local authority and just impose federal authority on Minneapolis, for example, he can do it anywhere. One year in from the time he was made chancellor of Germany in January of 1933, on January 30th, 1934, Hitler passed a law that basically stripped all the state governors who had been rebelling against what he was doing, very much like Minnesota is, stripped them of their authority and basically federalized the entire country. So what Trump is talking about is blowing up this essential federalism that the Founders created, where, you know, where the states have a relatively large amount of autonomy, 10th Amendment, and all that.”
It is always a bit amusing whenever progressives discover the 10th Amendment, but in this case, it does not apply. Minnesota is still in charge of its own affairs, but immigration enforcement has always been a federal prerogative.
Here is a transcript for the January 17 show:
MS NOW Velshi
1/17/2026
10:06 AM ET
ALI VELSHI: You said, could this be what the end of a would-be dictatorship looks like? In which you say, “They're doubling down,” meaning the government, “because they know their time is limited, their attempt to turn America into a Russia-like police state is suddenly failing, and a reckoning is coming. Trump and his lickspittles look at the horizon and see mushroom clouds rising against a red sky, suggesting their season of power and brutality is about to turn on them.”
And I would say, Thom, that half the time I feel that that's right. Half the time I feel like they've overstepped, and the American people are ready to say, “We've got the power to change this.”
THOM HARTMANN: I think you're absolutely right, Ali. It's great to see you, by the way. Thank you.
VELSHI: Thank you, sir.
HARTMANN: Thank you again. On the one hand you've got Trump about to lose some considerable power. Mark Pocan pointed this out on my program last week, Congressman Mark Pocan, that there are numerous Republicans who, once their primaries are done, which is, you know, kind of the April through July season, that will probably turn on Trump, at least according to what they're saying to him.
But they're terrified of losing their primaries. So, he's got this maybe six-month window. And, you know, on the one hand. On the other hand, if he can lock down state and local authority and just impose federal authority on Minneapolis, for example, he can do it anywhere.
One year in from the time he was made chancellor of Germany in January of 1933, on January 30th, 1934, Hitler passed a law that basically stripped all the state governors who had been rebelling against what he was doing, very much like Minnesota is, stripped them of their authority and basically federalized the entire country.
So what Trump is talking about is blowing up this essential federalism that the Founders created, where, you know, where the states have a relatively large amount of autonomy, 10th amendment, and all that.