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MS NOW Fearmongers About J.D. Vance Stealing Elections
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MS NOW Fearmongers About J.D. Vance Stealing Elections

Now that President Trump is halfway through his second term, the leftist media is turning their hateful gazes towards Vice President J.D. Vance. They want to paint him as another threat to democracy, possibly worse than Donald Trump. And you can count on them intensifying their attacks in the lead-up to this November’s midterm elections and the 2028 presidential race. MS NOW, as one of the Democratic media’s favorite lapdogs, happily obeyed these new commands as they sent out the aging host of The Last Word, Lawrence O’Donnell, on Monday to fearmonger about Vance using ICE to rig the elections. During the in-between show handoff with Rachel Maddow, O’ Donnell cited the New York Times report that “the Vice President strongly advocat[ed]” invoking the Insurrection Act in the midst of the chaotic Minneapolis anti-ICE protests. But even though the report doesn’t mention elections or polling places, O’Donnell went ahead and dug in on that conspiracy theory: So that would be the device they would use to get federal troops, American military, on the ground, on the streets, possibly at polling places in this country.  Maddow and her wilting pompadour also wasted no time in dogpiling on that baseless allegation with a pointed attack on the Vice President: Yeah, and if anybody was thinking that J.D. Vance might be, sort of a more democracy-minded leader than Donald Trump, consider that within the Trump administration, according to this new reporting, J.D. Vance was the loudest voice asking to deploy active duty military against the American public on American soil.      Later in the show, O’Donnell barked about how “the Insurrection Act remains a loaded weapon that some observers have suggested could be aimed at our polling places in swing states like Georgia.” He welcomed Democratic Senator Raphael Warnock of Georgia’s comments that “this President has demonstrated time and time again, and his Vice President, as we hear in these words, that they are willing to do anything to stay in power.”  Continuing to drum up election conspiracy theories, Warnock and O’Donnell made a series of outlandish claims, including voter suppression directed against married women: WARNOCK: They've been trying to flood the zone, throw everything at us, and now we're seeing some of the things that they're thinking about throwing at us. And part of the work that they're trying to do is to convince the citizenry that there's no need to push back.   (...) O’DONNELL: With all of the gaming out of worst case scenarios, including Donald Trump using the Insurrection Act at J.D. Vance's urgings to send federal troops to your polling places in Georgia because, you know, they're sending to Georgia, right? They're not sending them to Massachusetts. They're going to send them to the place, the swing state, where it can make a difference. (...) WARNOCK: If they put ICE in front of polls, that's illegal. It's unconstitutional. They can't do it. That doesn't seem to bother this administration that much. . . They're trying to squeeze the voices of voters out of their democracy, Black voters, through this awful gerrymandering that the court has approved. They're trying to squeeze the voices of women as they're still trying to pass the SAVE Act, which would disproportionately hurt married women.  And to top it all off, O’Donnell and Warnock seasoned their conspiracy theory-riddled slop with a heap of the violent and dehumanizing language we hear all too often from the left: WARNOCK: We cannot give in to those who are trying to weaponize despair. . .what we learned by watching the wonderful folks of Minnesota is that standing up and resisting does make a difference. I was just inspired by the people of Minneapolis. . . And clearly that got J.D. Vance's attention. He is, in my estimation, one of the most craven politicians on the American landscape.   (...) O’DONNELL: So, it's so true that the subtitle of your book, Reflections on the Moral Meaning of America, you know, you have a President who has never once reflected on that. WARNOCK: I don't - that's to put it nicely. I mean, he's at war with it. O'DONNELL: At war with it, yeah. WARNOCK: And so it's a dark moment in our country as we approach this 250th anniversary.  We can’t lower the rates of political violence when the dogs in the left-wing media hound each of their political opponents with bad-faith attacks and hateful rhetoric about conspiracy theories involving voter suppression and military interference in elections. But, of course, these dogs won’t come back to the kennel anytime soon. The full transcript is below. Click “expand” to read: MS NOW's The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell 6/15/26 10:01:21 p.m. Eastern (...) LAWRENCE O'DONNELL: And it also, Rachel, is highly relevant to that reporting that the New York Times is now running from Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan's new book called Regime Change, where they were reporting today in the New York Times about the Trump administration considering invoking the Insurrection Act, something that we were all kind of guessing about. This is the inside story of exactly how they considered it. The Vice President strongly advocating it.  So that would be the device they would use to get federal troops, American military, on the ground, on the streets, possibly at polling places in this country. RACHEL MADDOW: Yeah. And if anybody was thinking that J.D. Vance might be, sort of a more democracy-minded leader than Donald Trump, consider that within the Trump administration, according to this new reporting, J.D. Vance was the loudest voice asking to deploy active duty military against the American public on American soil. That's - that is-- O'DONNELL: Yeah, he was the leader of it. And he could be the top name on the Republican presidential ticket in the next presidential election, in the White House, advocating the same thing for that election. (...) 10:14:45 p.m. Eastern O'DONNELL: The Insurrection Act remains a loaded weapon that some observers have suggested could be aimed at our polling places in swing states like Georgia that could go either way in the November election.  Leading off our discussion tonight is Democratic Senator Raphael Warnock of Georgia. He serves on the Senate Finance Committee and the Senate Banking Committee. He's also the author of the new book, The Crooked Places Made Straight: Reflections on the Moral Meaning of America. Senator, thank you very much for joining us tonight.  In the previous hour, Rachel was reporting on a task force assembled by Chuck Schumer that includes you, it includes others outside the Senate. Marc Elias, who appeared with Rachel talking about these very issues of, what is the worst-case scenario facing us on Election Day? What do we have to be prepared for? And it comes on a day when we read Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan's report of the discussions of the Insurrection Act in the White House, that sure looks like the kind of loaded weapon that could be aimed at our elections. SEN. RAPHAEL WARNOCK (D-GA): No, absolutely, and great to be with you.  This President has demonstrated time and time again, and his Vice President, as we hear in these words, that they are willing to do anything to stay in power. And I think that we shouldn't be surprised by that, we've seen plenty of evidence. What is - what has been striking is the extent to which colleagues of mine in the Congress are willing to go along on this ride.  And so, we are remaining vigilant. We have to be prepared for this moment. We have to take it very seriously. But here's what we cannot afford to do. We cannot give in to those who are trying to weaponize despair.  We - they've been trying to flood the zone, throw everything at us, and now we're seeing some of the things that they're thinking about throwing at us. And part of the work that they're trying to do is to convince the citizenry that there's no need to push back.  And what we learned by watching the wonderful folks of Minnesota is that standing up and resisting does make a difference. I was just inspired by the people of Minneapolis. I had to go and stand there. It was freezing cold. You know, I'm from Georgia, way below zero. But night after night after night, those folks were standing there and looking out for their neighbors.  And clearly that got J.D. Vance's attention. He is, in my estimation, one of the most craven politicians on the American landscape.  And it's deeply concerning to see this reporting. We've got to remain prepared. We know something about the government overreaching in Fulton County, remember, they sent the FBI in to snatch ballots from the 2020 election. They are harassing election workers with subpoenas, demanding information from people who are just volunteers.  And so, we remain focused on this. But part of what we need people to do is prepare to show up, show up, show up, show up. And we'll be using every, every tool that we have to try to keep our democracy intact. O'DONNELL: With all of the gaming out of worst case scenarios, including Donald Trump using the Insurrection Act at J.D. Vance's urgings to send federal troops to your polling places in Georgia because, you know, they're sending to Georgia, right? They're not sending them to Massachusetts. They're going to send them to the place, the swing state, where it can make a difference, where they think they might be able to keep Jon Ossoff out of the Senate, things like that, places like that around the country. Is voter turnout - is it possible for voter turnout to be so big, even in the face of American troops, that the voter turnout could overwhelm, could be the ultimate weapon to overwhelm these kinds of tactics? WARNOCK: Well, we've got to use all our tools. The answer to this attack on democracy is more democracy. We've got to use the tools of our democratic experiment.  And we saw that in Minnesota, with them standing up, protesting night after night, looking out for their neighbors.  And yes, people need to show up in Georgia. What I know from experience from somebody who's run a couple of races in that purple state, is that - you know, voter suppression is not really about, you know, you don't have to take millions of votes. You know, you just make it difficult for people to show up. You undermine people's access a little bit here, a little bit there, shave around the edges even before you get to something like troops on the street. And that can swing an election. (...) 10:20:23 p.m. Eastern WARNOCK: So these things are close and they can go a little bit here, a little bit there, which is why we have to remain vigilant on every front. We have to use the courts. We need an army of lawyers. We need to continue to raise questions around ICE. If they put ICE in front of polls, that's illegal. It's unconstitutional. They can't do it. That doesn't seem to bother this administration that much.  And yes, showing up makes it harder to steal an election. As we're watching this gerrymandering that's going on all across the south as a result of this awful decision made by the, you know, the partisans on the Supreme Court.  They're using every tool. And so we've got to show up and overwhelm their projections about who's going to show up. (...) 10:30:59 p.m. Eastern (...) O'DONNELL: So, it's so true that the subtitle of your book, Reflections on the Moral Meaning of America, you know, you have a President who has never once reflected on that. WARNOCK: I don't - that's to put it nicely. I mean, he's at war with it. O'DONNELL: At war with it, yeah. WARNOCK: And so it's a dark moment in our country as we approach this 250th anniversary.  You know, the United States of America goes through its moments. There are moments when, when the democracy expands, there are moments when it contracts. And this is a contraction moment.  They're trying to squeeze the voices of voters out of their democracy, Black voters, through this awful gerrymandering that the court has approved.  They're trying to squeeze the voices of women as they're still trying to pass the SAVE Act, which would disproportionately hurt married women.  And we've got to push back, because here is what every mother knows, that contractions are painful, but they are necessary for new birth. 

The View in the Crosshairs: David Bozell Looks at Why JD Vance Steps into the Lion’s Den
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The View in the Crosshairs: David Bozell Looks at Why JD Vance Steps into the Lion’s Den

When Vice President JD Vance announced his guest appearance on The View, political observers everywhere laced up their sneakers. Why would a conservative trailblazer willingly walk onto daytime television’s most notoriously hostile stage? On a recent episode of The Ray Stevens Show on WLS Chicago, host Ray Stevens sat down with David Bozell, President of the Media Research Center (MRC), to break down the strategy. According to Bozell, the appearance is less about a casual interview and more about political survival for ABC. MRC data reveals a staggering partisan disparity on The View—tracking 128 liberal guests to just two conservative voices. Bozell speculates that the network, currently facing intense FCC scrutiny over its programming balance, likely extended the invite expecting a rejection. The FCC has their Eye of Sauron on ABC right now. In 2025, The View has hosted 128 liberal guests and only 2 conservative guests. JD Vance will be only the 3rd conservative to join the show this year.@DavidBozell @wlsam890 pic.twitter.com/0JNH7LscyS — Media Research Center (@theMRC) June 16, 2026 Instead, Vance accepted. Bozell notes that the modern cabinet consists of "seasoned media professionals" who actually gravitate toward hostile environments to stay sharp. While the panel will undoubtedly try to drive a wedge between Vance and the President, Bozell expected Vance's intellect to rise above the sniping. The View hosts have previously accused JD Vance of treason, they've called him a "sociopathic liar." Today's interview will certainly be interesting. @DavidBozell predicts what will happen during JD Vance's appearance on The View. pic.twitter.com/gq492MUOKu — Media Research Center (@theMRC) June 16, 2026 Listen to the full interview on The Ray Stevens Show to hear the complete, unfiltered breakdown.  

Rob Schneider Offers to Pay Fines of Any MLB Players Who Wear Bible Verses
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Rob Schneider Offers to Pay Fines of Any MLB Players Who Wear Bible Verses

After Major League Baseball (MLB) warned three San Francisco Giants players for wearing Bible verses on their caps during the team’s LGBTQ+ “Pride Night” game on Friday, comedian Rob Schneider offered to pay the fines of any players who defy the Bible ban. “I will pay the fines for any @MLB Christian player who wears a Bible verse on their uniform. @MLB is ANTI-CHRISTIAN,” Schneider declared Tuesday in a social media post. Schneider was reacting to a Sports Illustrated story reporting on the league’s rebuke: “Three Giants pitchers were issued a warning from Major League Baseball after they appeared in Friday’s game against the Cubs with Bible verses written on their Pride Night caps. The league notified the players that similar behavior would not be tolerated in the future. “Right-handed pitcher Landen Roupp started Friday’s game on the mound. Etched on his cap throughout the game was ‘Gen 9:12-16’ in white lettering. The writing was a reference to the Bible verse Genesis 9:12-16.” Two San Francisco relief pitchers, JT Brubaker and Ryan Walker, also wore Bible verses on their caps. The next day, the Giants issued a statement apologizing to the LGBTQ+ community because the Bible verses angered them: "We understand that the choices by individual players have caused pain and anger to many in the LGBTQ+ community and we are sorry for that.” “The writing on the cap violates our rules and consistent with normal practice we have warned the players about future violations,” MLB said in its original statement, according to an Associated Press report. It's not just the Bible - Major League Baseball also does not tolerate messages supporting mothers, fathers and other family members, the league declared in a follow-up statement Tuesday: “We have given the same warning numerous times in the past to players for messages such as ‘Dad’, ‘Happy Mother’s Day, I Love Mom,’ and names of family members.”

Network Morning Shows Promote Newsom Probe Spin of 'Trump Retribution Campaign'
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Network Morning Shows Promote Newsom Probe Spin of 'Trump Retribution Campaign'

ABC, CBS, and NBC all broadcast stories about Gov. Gavin Newsom rushing out to proclaim the federal government was investigating his family finances, heavily selling his "Trump retribution" narrative without going beyond vague references to what might deserve investigation.  As usual, ABC's Good Morning America pounded on the DNC party line the hardest. In the show's opening moments, George Stephanopoulos: "Retribution campaign. California Governor Newsom says President Trump is using the Justice Department to go after him and his wife, accusing the president of carrying out a personal vendetta. What we're learning this morning." Minutes later, George repeated: “The latest now in President Trump's retribution campaign. California Governor Gavin Newsom says the Justice Department is investigating him and his wife at the direction of President Trump.” On 'GMA,' ABC broadcasts a near-press release for Gavin Newsom. Stephanopoulos: “The latest now in President Trump's retribution campaign. California Gov. Gavin Newsom says the Justice Department is investigating him and his wife at the direction of President Trump.” Three… pic.twitter.com/9GmPRc6GWe — Tim Graham (@TimJGraham) June 16, 2026   White House reporter Mary Bruce aided Newsom with three soundbites as he described the investigation as a "fishing expedition" and a Trump "hit job." Bruce concluded: "Meanwhile, Newsom is really leaning into this fight, saying in a fundraising email for his political group, quote, 'Mr. President, come after me. I'm not going anywhere and the country is watching.'" On CBS Mornings, co-host Vladimir Duthiers also sounded like he was reading a press release: "One of President Trump's biggest critics says he is targeted for revenge. California Governor Gavin Newsom says he and his wife are being investigated by the Justice Department. He says there is no crime, just an effort to keep him quiet.” Duthiers even suggested this probe could help Newsom, asking political analyst Robert Costa: "Are some in Washington saying this -- this DOJ investigation -- as potentially an advantage for the governor?" Costa suggested no, Team Newsom is "on edge," it creates a "variable" in his 2028 calculations. On "CBS Mornings," co-host Vladimir Duthiers suggests a probe into the Newsom finances could be a PLUS for Newsom's POTUS hopes: "Are some in Washington saying this -- this DOJ investigation -- as potentially an advantage for the governor?" Robert Costa suggests no, Team Newsom… pic.twitter.com/yF6VZ1sIw2 — Tim Graham (@TimJGraham) June 16, 2026   NBC's Today offered a story by Kelly O'Donnell, featuring three Newsom soundbites as well as swagger from Sen. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.). The most annoying phrase that Trump was after "perceived adversaries," as if Trump could be wrong about their animus.  NBC's 'Today' story on the Newsom investigation leads heavily on Democrat soundbites, and Kelly O'Donnell unloads that gaslighting phrase "perceived adversaries" of Trump -- as if Newsom, Comey, Tish James, and Schiff are NOT adversarial to Trump?? pic.twitter.com/KwLWTC7nke — Tim Graham (@TimJGraham) June 16, 2026 O'DONNELL: Newsom places himself among other high-profile figures and perceived adversaries of the president investigated by the Justice Department, including former FBI director James Comey, New York attorney general Leticia James, and Democratic senator Adam Schiff. SCHIFF: I think people are growing numb to this extraordinary abuse of the Justice Department. Let's guess they wouldn't say Democrats "perceive" Trump to be adversarial to them.  PS: NPR's Morning Edition also sounded like they were promoting Newsom in an almost three-minute story:  GUY MARZORATI, KQED: Newsom's office says agents have asked questions on a wide range of topics and, they believe, subpoenaed bank records from the governor and his wife. Jennifer Siebel Newsom is a filmmaker and founder of a nonprofit that raises awareness about gender stereotypes. NEWSOM: A public servant. A woman who's dedicated her life to supporting women and girls. Someone who has done nothing wrong other than having the temerity to advocate for what she believes in. If they can't intimidate me, they'll go after the mother of our children. MARZORATI: Newsom has been a leading Democratic critic of President Donald Trump. He thinks the probe is political payback. The audiences of these shows learned no specifics of what could be investigated, or that former Newsom chief of staff Dana Williamson pleaded guilty in federal court in May to conspiracy to commit bank fraud and wire fraud.

Happy Warrior: The Wildest Moments from Vance Visiting ‘The View’
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Happy Warrior: The Wildest Moments from Vance Visiting ‘The View’

Vice President J.D. Vance went into the vipers’ pit on Tuesday, spending most of the 11 a.m. hour with the liberal ladies of ABC’s The View and subjected himself to their nasty nagging. They couldn’t hide their crazy as polite questions quickly gave way to repeated bouts of crosstalk, interruptions, snide comments, as well as screaming and shouting. Not all of it at Vance, but among each other too. Presented below are some of the wilder moments of the whole event. While Vance was trying to answer a question from pretend independent co-host Sara Haines about immigration, where she demanded he help her try to explain the Trump administration to her kids, fake Republican co-host Ana Navarro interrupted so she could pile on with an unsupported conspiracy theory that ICE was torturing and starving kids in a detention center. “You talk about moral tradeoffs that result in favoring a strict migration policy without dehumanizing anyone,” she chided. “But listen, over 50 people have died in ICE custody. There are thousands of children, 6,200, that are being held in places like Dilly Detention Center that people that have visited -- I don't know if you have -- talk about the subhuman, infrahuman conditions, the lack of clean water, the lack of medical attention, lack of education.”   Haines then whines to Vance about having to explain to her kids why illegal immigrants are being deported. Navarro then pounces and spews lies that children are being tortured, starved, and made ill in one ICE facility. Vance calls out the media's lies. pic.twitter.com/vc7kYateTs — Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) June 16, 2026   As Navarro continued to ramble, co-host Joy Behar had to step and tell her to let Vance respond (Click “expand”): NAVARRO: I would urge you as a Christian and as a father to visit those detention centers where the children are being held, and make sure that the conditions are up to the values that we hold in this country. JOY BEHAR: Let him answer. [Applause] VANCE: You have thrown a lot at me and I see we have 30 seconds left here, but let me say - NAVARRO: You are the vice president. You can go long. During the interview, Navarro was a near-constant problem for moderator Whoopi Goldberg. As they were approaching a commercial break and Vance was wrapping up a response to a question from Goldberg and co-host Sunny Hostin about race (because of course it was), Navarro tried to squeeze in a question about Michelle Obama. This caused Goldberg to clap her hands vigorously and scream to God to get Navarro shut up: VANCE: I’m telling you, we celebrate black history. We celebrate all American history in this administration. You guys might be skeptical of this, but I promise you it’s true. NAVARRO: Can I ask you about a specific piece of black history? GOLDBERG: He’s gotta - I gotta - NAVARRO: Do you think the attack on Michelle Obama - GOLDBERG: I have to go to break! [Claps her hands] ANA, GOD PLEASE! NAVARRO: - should have been condemned by the White House? GOLDBERG: We have more with Vice President J.D. Vance when we come back. “Don't do that!” Goldberg scolded Navarro, in possibly a hot mic moment.   Vance's presence on the show has The View cast is so unhinged that they're attacking each other now. JD looks like he's having a grand ol' time. pic.twitter.com/oxEnEahoOs — Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) June 16, 2026   The question from Goldberg and Hostin that Vance was trying to answer was one based on another conspiracy theory that suggested the Trump administration was trying to erase black history and black people from society (Click “expand”): GOLDBERG: There's so many. You know, where they’re taking down the actual history that happened in this country. Slavery happened. All kinds of stuff happened. And it seems that it has been very easy for this administration to remove that and also to denigrate black folks who have worked their behinds off to get this American dream. How - I mean, you know better! [Applause] VANCE: Let me - So, Sunny, that was actually very helpful intervention because I think the story you are talking about is where allegedly the administration is holding back the appointments of people based on skin color. HOSTIN: I’m talking about a host of things. I’m talking about black history getting erased from public spaces. Black voter districts are being dismantled. Black leaders are being sidelined from our ranks. Where do Americans of color fit in this vision?! Because it doesn't seem like we fit! VANCE: I think, Sunny, my view - As Vance was trying to answer, Navarro interrupted again with her own crazy claim that, “since October of last year there's been something like 6,668 refugees allowed in the country. All but three were white South Africans.” “I'm very skeptical of that number because we have a lot of different immigration pathways in the United States of America,” Vance said before pivoting back to Goldberg. At one point, Goldberg had to shout through crosstalk to ask Vance an equally ridiculous question: “No, no! Let me do my follow-up! Let me do my follow-up! Because you were talking about people. What did black people do to this administration that has allowed it to really stigmatize folks of color?” When Vance was finally able to respond, he accurately pointed out that she essentially accused the administration being “anti-minority or anti-black,” Goldberg snapped at him and declared: “NO, I didn't say that! (…) Don't start any stuff with me man.”   Claiming the administration is trying to erase black history and black people, Whoopi says to Vance: "What did black people do to this administration that has allowed it to really stigmatize folks of color? And you know how hard it is. You have folks of color in your family."… pic.twitter.com/yCWvuadQ0i — Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) June 16, 2026   For Hostin’s part, she accused Vance of “separating families” with ICE arrests, as if normal arrests didn’t do the same thing. In response to Hostin pushing the conspiracy theory that the administration was “using children as bait” to arrest illegal immigrants, Vance tried to note that the Biden administration had lost over 300,000 migrant children, but Hostin wasn’t having it (Click “expand”): VANCE: So, you talk about the children. Here’s what I’d say: do we know that during the last administration we had tens of thousands of children who were sex trafficked by the cartels, who were brought into our country in profoundly dangerous and predatory conditions -- HOSTIN: Talk about this administration! There was actually a nice moment at the end of the show. As Behar tried to monopolize the last “10 seconds” of the show with another accusatory question, faux conservative Alyssa Farah Griffin interrupted and gifted Vance a View-branded onesie for the baby he and Second Lady Usha Vance were expecting.   With Behar trying to monopolize the last 10 seconds with her nasty follow-up, they close out the interview with Farah Griffin presents Vance with a View-branded onesie for he's child on the way. Whoopi looks exhausted. pic.twitter.com/wcjiuIN7g5 — Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) June 16, 2026   “Thank you. I appreciate that. We will put this on. We’ll send you guys the photo,” Vance said with a chuckle, amused by the gift. By the end of the show, Goldberg looked exhausted. Since The View was so highly curated to only allow one political opinion, it's not often that Goldberg had to do her job and actually moderate. The rest of the cast were certainly testing her. The relevant portions of the transcript are below. Click "expand" to read: ABC’s The View June 16, 2026 11:35:31 a.m. Eastern (…) [Vice President J.D. Vance beginning to answer a question from co-host Sara Haines] ANA NAVARRO: And you actually say in the book - You talk about this. You talk about this struggle in the book. VP J.D. VANCE: I do. Of course. NAVARRO: You talk about moral tradeoffs that result in favoring a strict migration policy without dehumanizing anyone. But listen, over 50 people have died in ICE custody. There are thousands of children, 6,200, that are being held in places like Dilly Detention Center that people that have visited -- I don't know if you have -- talk about the subhuman, infrahuman conditions, the lack of clean water, the lack of medical attention, lack of education. I would urge you as a Christian and as a father to visit those detention centers where the children are being held, and make sure that the conditions are up to the values that we hold in this country. JOY BEHAR: Let him answer. [Applause] VANCE: You have thrown a lot at me and I see we have 30 seconds left here, but let me say - NAVARRO: You are the vice president. You can go long. VANCE: I’d like to pick up on this theme because I think it’s really important. We do have to strike a balance, of course, between enforcing our laws. We don't want to dehumanize people. That is the balance. Look, law enforcement - What I’d say about this: law enforcement is always inherently not a very pretty process. Especially when you dealing sometimes with violent people, with people who are resisting arrest. Some of the people that I have been told by the media were completely peaceful, have never violated any laws, you look actually look into the record and find out that those people were actually being violent or they did have a criminal record. They had a sex traffic conviction. SUNNY HOSTIN: The majority people don’t have criminal records, the majority of people that ICE is rounding up and taking out of their homes from their families, they are separating families, they’re using children as bait, the majority are not criminals! [Applause] VANCE: But can I respond to that? Guys, let me just say this. Okay. So, you talk about the children. Here’s what I’d say: do we know that during the last administration we had tens of thousands of children who were sex trafficked by the cartels, who were brought into our country in profoundly dangerous and predatory conditions -- HOSTIN: Talk about this administration! VANCE: But here’s the point, unless you enforce the border, you invite that conduct. You think that our immigration policies are inhuman based on the reporting of one person with a political bias. What I'm telling you is that it's inhumane - NAVARRO (interrupting): It’s not one person. VANCE: - to allow cartels to sex traffic people across our border. [Crosstalk] NAVARRO: And you guys have done a great job of closing the border. WHOOPI GOLDBERG: Please hold on. VANCE: I appreciate that. (…) 11:44:14 a.m. Eastern [Loud crosstalk as Vance finishes an answer to a question from Goldberg] GOLDBERG: No, no! Let me do my follow-up! Let me do my follow-up! Because you were talking about people. What did black people do to this administration that has allowed it to really stigmatize folks of color? And you know how hard it is. You have folks of color in your family. VANCE: Sure. GOLDBERG: So, when you see things -- the Emmitt Till stuff coming down or them doing all kinds of removal of information of black heroes, how do you -- how does that sit with you? VANCE: What exactly are you talking about, Whoopi because you just - GOLDBERG: I’m talking about - [Audience reacts negatively] VANCE: Emmitt Till was the kid - GOLDBERG: I can tell you -- VANCE: No, no. I want to know what she's -- I want to respond to your actual point. GOLDBERG: In a lot of the - um HOSITN: Museums? GOLDBERG: Museums - [Crosstalk] GOLDBERG: There's so many. You know, where they’re taking down the actual history that happened in this country. Slavery happened. All kinds of stuff happened. And it seems that it has been very easy for this administration to remove that and also to denigrate black folks who have worked their behinds off to get this American dream. How - I mean, you know better! [Applause] VANCE: Let me - So, Sunny, that was actually very helpful intervention because I think the story you are talking about is where allegedly the administration is holding back the appointments of people based on skin color. HOSTIN: I’m talking about a host of things. I’m talking about black history getting erased from public spaces. Black voter districts are being dismantled. Black leaders are being sidelined from our ranks. Where do Americans of color fit in this vision?! Because it doesn't seem like we fit! VANCE: I think, Sunny, my view - [Applause] NAVARRO: And if I may, since October of last year there's been something like 6,668 refugees allowed in the country. All but three were white South Africans. HOSTIN: South Africans. VANCE: So, first of all, I'm very skeptical of that number because we have a lot of different immigration pathways in the United States of America. But let me just address Whoopi's point. Look, first of all, you asked the question; and maybe you don’t believe this coming from me, but I think everybody is welcome in our political coalition. Frankly, even if you didn't vote for us, everybody is welcome in our country so long as you are an American citizen, with the duties and the legal obligation and rights to be here. GOLDBERG: Right. VANCE: But let me just give you an example. Okay, so you say we’re anti-minority or anti-black -- GOLDBERG: NO, I didn't say that! I asked. See. VANCE: Okay, fine. Fair. Fair. GOLDBERG: Don't start any stuff with me man. Don't get me in trouble. [Applause] Don’t start that stuff with me. VANCE: I misinterpreted your question. GOLDBERG: That’s all right. VANCE: But let me answer your actual question there. What I'm saying, I think -- Okay, look at Washington, D.C. One of the most Democratic and one of the blackest - by share of population - blackest cities in the United States of America, has seen a radical decrease in violent crimes and sexual assaults and murders. We have tried to take the crime issue seriously in part because we believe everybody, whether you are black or white or rich or poor, deserves to live in a safe neighborhood. GOLDBERG: But why was - why does the crime - where does the crime step in? This is not about crime. This is about -- HOSTIN: 300,000 black women lost their jobs! [Crosstalk] GOLDBERG: This is about human rights, sir. VANCE: What you are saying is, we have to do more on the economy. HOSTIN: And black history has been erased from public spaces! VANCE: Black history is not erased from public spaces. HOSTIN: That is true. VANCE: That is not right. [Crosstalk] VANCE: I’m telling you, we celebrate black history. We celebrate all American history in this administration. You guys might be skeptical of this, but I promise you it’s true. NAVARRO: Can I ask you about a specific piece of black history? GOLDBERG: He’s gotta - I gotta - NAVARRO: Do you think the attack on Michelle Obama - GOLDBERG: I have to go to break! [Claps her hands] ANA, GOD PLEASE! NAVARRO: - should have been condemned by the White House? GOLDBERG: We have more with Vice President J.D. Vance when we come back. Don't do that! (…) 11:53:49 a.m. Eastern VANCE: I do think -- in a subtle sometimes, sometimes in a more profound way, I think our country has become more anti-family and more anti-child. It's harder to travel. It’s harder to go to restaurants. [Crosstalk] BEHAR: All right, we only have 10 seconds, do you want - ALYSSA FARAH GRIFFIN: Mr. Vice President, we know you grandchild is - or your CHILD is arriving. VANCE: No grand babies yet. FARAH GRIFFIN: Not yet. We’re very excited for you and Usha, and we wanted to give you a View onesie. VANCE: Thank you. I appreciate that. We will put this on. We’ll send you guys the photo. GOLDBERG: His new book Communion: Finding My Way Back to Faith is available now. Scan the QR code on your screen to purchase a copy. And we will be right back. VANCE: Thank you, guys.