During Thursday’s Inside Politics, host Dana Bash and her guests covered the breaking news that the FBI arrested a suspect alleged to be the would-be Capitol Hill pipe bomber from January of 2021. No one on the program mentioned the fact that the vast majority of the four-year long investigation took place during Biden’s presidency and that the turn of events happened only after President Trump retook office. CNN justice correspondent Evan Perez gave a rundown of the background details of the investigation: “… this is a case, obviously, that has really bedeviled the FBI. They’ve spent the last few years doing a lot of interviews, hundreds of interviews. They have gone through tens of thousands of video clips […] and really nothing worked until they brought in a new team earlier this year.” Now what new team could he have been referring to? Could it have been a team formed during Trump’s tenure? As if she couldn’t believe her ears, Bash asked Perez if the multi-year “cold case” turned hot simply because of the newfound special effort: BASH: Was it just fresh eyes from this new team? Was it AI, or do we not know yet? PEREZ: Well, we know that it is — it has to do with this new team that were brought in from elsewhere in the FBI. I'm told that there was an agent from the ATF that joined them as well. And really it was just more new fresh eyes. Because again, the teams that have been looking at this over the last few years had really been at, sort of, a dead end. It was almost like they were looking at a cold case, which is extraordinary, if you think about this, right? I know, right? Oh wait, let’s translate “fresh eyes” —there was fresh motivation to actually find the pipe bomber.     The FBI already held the evidence it needed for a while. So long, in fact, that Attorney General Pam Bondi stated later that day: Today's arrest happened because the Trump administration has made this case a priority. […] This cold case languished for four years until Director Patel and Deputy Director Bongino came to the FBI. The FBI […] worked tirelessly for months sifting through evidence that had been sitting at the FBI with the Biden administration for four long years. Let me be clear. There was no new tip. There was no new witness. Just good, diligent police work and prosecutorial work… While the leftist network was willing to acknowledge the achievement behind the breakthrough, they were unwilling to be honest about why it took so long. Bash wanted her audience to understand that the FBI was really trying to figure out the elusive mystery behind the domestic terror threat, and former Boston police commissioner Ed Davis backed her up: BASH: It certainly seemed like a cold case, but it turns out they were working really, really hard for all these years. DAVIS: That's true, Dana. If you look at the definition of a cold case, it's over one to three years old and it is reinvigorated after all the leads have been run down. So, I don't know if this technically defines a cold case, but it certainly is a case that the FBI has spent a lot of time on and a lot of dedication. And I cannot underestimate the importance of putting fresh eyes on a case like this. Oh, you bet. Let’s ignore reality so the truth would be less inconvenient. Davis went on to suggest, “a lot of times these cases are cracked because someone says something […] and sometimes just shaking the tree helps.” Not all the details were known at the time of the program, but did anyone really buy that? The bias was pure and blatant. Not only did CNN ignore the clear lack of movement on the part of Biden’s FBI, they never even mentioned his name or that of any FBI or DOJ leadership from before Trump’s second term. The transcript is below. Click "expand" read: CNN’s Inside Politics with Dana Bash December 4, 2025 12:17:15 p.m. EST DANA BASH: Evan, I want to start with you. What are you hearing from your sources about how this went down? EVAN PEREZ: Well, this arrest was made earlier today, and Dana, this is a case, obviously, that has really bedeviled the FBI. They’ve spent the last few years doing a lot of interviews, hundreds of interviews. They have gone through tens of thousands of video clips. A lot of it, the problem with this investigation has been the grainy video, the surveillance video that you have shown there on our air. These are the clips the FBI has released trying to get people to call in tips, and really nothing worked until they brought in a new team earlier this year. And that's what led them to the arrest this morning of Brian Cole Jr. He's 30 years old in Woodbridge, Virginia, and the arrest happened, again, at the end of a long, tedious process. But this new team looked at some of the evidence that had been gathered over the years and developed some new some new leads, essentially, that led them to this point, Dana. BASH: Real quick, Evan, staying with you. Was it just fresh eyes from this new team? Was it AI, or do we not know yet? PEREZ: Well, we know that it is — it has to do with this new team that were brought in from elsewhere in the FBI. I'm told that there was an agent from the ATF that joined them as well. And really it was just more new fresh eyes. Because again, the teams that have been looking at this over the last few years had really been at, sort of, a dead end. It was almost like they were looking at a cold case, which is extraordinary, if you think about this, right? This is a thing that happened just a couple blocks away from the Capitol. When it happened, if you remember, Dana, it drew police away from the Capitol complex, which is why there's been so many conspiracies about whether or not the two things were linked and whether that was an intentional — we're going to hear a lot more about the suspect and about the charges that we anticipate in the next couple of hours from the Justice Department. BASH: It's so fascinating, Commissioner Davis. It certainly seemed like a cold case, but it turns out they were working really, really hard for all these years. ED DAVIS: That's true, Dana. If you look at the definition of a cold case, it's over one to three years old and it is reinvigorated after all the leads have been run down. So, I don't know if this technically defines a cold case, but it certainly is a case that the FBI has spent a lot of time on and a lot of dedication. And I cannot underestimate the importance of putting fresh eyes on a case like this. This is what led to the apprehension of Whitey Bulger here in Boston, many years ago. Rick Deloria from the FBI re-resurrected the case, had new people look at it, and all of a sudden, he was in custody. On this one, you know, the video evidence is important and it's usually the first place that you look, but also cell phone tower dumps are extremely important, and there can be thousands of pieces of data that need to be gone through from different locations in the city in the comparison of those things. And the other thing I'd like to say is that a lot of times these cases are cracked because someone says something, you know, an estranged spouse or someone who was advised by the suspect that they were involved in it comes around years later and sometimes just shaking the tree helps. BASH: Yeah. And for our viewers who don't remember, you were leading the Boston Police Department during the tragic marathon bombing, and that manhunt lasted just five days. This again, is nearly five years. Totally different situations, totally different everything, but it kind of gives a little context or perspective into what we're seeing now. DAVIS: Right. And it's all dependent on the quality of the evidence. We had very high-quality photos that were easy to identify. That's not the case in this particular situation. And I know that they've looked at the shoe evidence, what types of footwear the suspect was wearing, how he or she walked, all sorts of, sort of, peripheral things that in a desperate attempt, really, to try to put the case together. So, it wasn't for lack of trying that it's five years out, and five days is not a comment on the quality of the investigation. It's the quality of the evidence that we're able to get our hands on quickly. BASH: Okay — makes sense, totally understood.

In the last month, media elitists attacked Donald Trump’s shutdown strategy as cruel but spun the Democrats’ cave-in to Trump as a smart retreat.  On PBS, Jonathan Capehart claimed there was a “meanness and a cruelty” to Team Trump’s handling of the shutdown, and David Brooks pushed the Democrats to emphasize the “once-in-a-nation’s history threat to democracy” that Trump posed.  MS NOW’s Katy Tur claimed it revealed Trump’s “dark side.” Her colleague Joe Scarborough spun Democrats’ backing down to Trump as one of history’s “greatest retreats,” like Dunkirk.   The following are just some of the most obnoxious outbursts by leftist journalists and celebrities from the past month:   Shutdown Revealed Trump’s “Dark Side”     “The shutdown did reveal quite a dark side of Donald Trump….Posting about the grim reaper coming to slash government jobs, laying off workers….Suing states to say, ‘No, you can’t release these SNAP funds.’...There was a certain callousness that went further than I’ve seen Donald Trump go in the past.” — Host Katy Tur on MSNBC’s Katy Tur Reports, November 12.    “There’s a Meanness and a Cruelty” to Trump’s Shutdown Strategy     “There’s a meanness and a cruelty here when you put all of these things together, using the shutdown, using these things to pressure Democrats to come to the table and come up with a deal.”— Contributor Jonathan Capehart on PBS’s News Hour, November 7.   Democrats Should Emphasize Trump’s “Once-In-a-Nation’s History Threat to Democracy”  Host William Brangham: “David, do you think that the Democrats are making a coherent, resonant argument as to why they are holding the line here [on the shutdown]?”Contributor David Brooks: “I think it’s okay. I mean, they’re emphasizing the subsidies. Frankly, if it was up to me I might have mentioned a once-in-a-nation’s-history threat to democracy, as the core problem here.”— PBS’s News Hour, October 31.   Democrats Backing Down on Shutdown Amongst “Great Retreats” Like George Washington, Dunkirk   “Sometimes….strategic retreats actually lead to eventual victory….When George Washington retreated from Long Island in 1776. That retreat helped us eventually win the Revolutionary War….There have been movies made about Dunkirk. I mean, one of the great retreats in the history of modern warfare allowed the British to live to fight another day.…Why did these Democrats do what they did?...Because Democrats, unlike a lot of Republicans, actually care about the hungry. They just do. Are Republicans going to be rewarded because they don’t give a damn about helping the hungry in their own districts?”— Host Joe Scarborough on MSNBC’s Morning Joe, November 10.   Trump’s “Demolition” of White House Drove Voter Turnout Against Republicans      “I was struck by something Vaughn Hillyard reported from a voter in New Jersey saying that this voter was out there today voting because of, quote, this is what Vaughn said, the phrase he used, ‘the White House demolition.’ Donald Trump tearing down the East Wing of the White House, that sent a voter to the polls in New Jersey. Surely it sent thousands of voters to the polls all around the country.”— Host Lawrence O’Donnell on MSNBC’s election night coverage, November 4.    Katie Couric Blames the Victim: “Charlie Kirk’s Rhetoric Was Extreme”      “I think some people might say Charlie Kirk’s rhetoric was extreme. You know, I think that’s the conversation that happened. People condemned political violence, but they also felt a great deal of discomfort with his language, suggesting that these kinds of words lead to violence. I don’t know, I’m just kind of sharing my observations as I saw the conversations unfold.”— Host Katie Couric to Sen. John Fetterman on her podcast Next Question with Katie Couric, November 13.    Joy Reid: Racist MAGA Won’t Accept JD Vance Because He’s Married to an Immigrant     “[Vice President JD] Vance has a problem in that the base of MAGA is fundamentally racist….What most motivates MAGA? Hatred of non-white immigrants. They’re obsessed with non-white immigrants and undocumented people. They use the term illegals, which is just the N-word for brown people.…So they can’t have the successor to MAGA be the guy with the brown Hindu wife. They’re also Christian nationalists. That ain’t gonna work. That’s why he’s throwing his wife under the bus. Poor [Second Lady] Usha – or she’s in on it, right?”— Former MS NOW host Joy Reid on the I’ve Had It podcast, November 25.   Jen Psaki Rages Against Trump “Sycophants” in “Kremlin-esque” White House Press Briefings      “I read the press briefing a lot because we do a little thing on our show about it sometimes, more and more of the questions in there are by sycophants, or by people who are not asking about news that the American people cares about….It’s becoming more of a Kremlin-esque press corps.”— MS NOW host Jen Psaki on Next Question with Katie Couric podcast, November 19.    Joe Scarborough: Trump Administration is “Going Against Jesus’s Teachings” on Deportation     “The administration official that said the Pope is wrong. You kinda going against not only the Pope, you’re going against Jesus’s teachings throughout the entire New Testament. All I can say is good luck with that, taking it up with Jesus and taking it up with the Pope. And all of the archbishops and so many priests. The New Testament, the Gospel is so painfully clear that the Pope feels free to say, ‘Please don’t call yourself pro-life if you’re against abortion, but you support the inhumane treatment of these souls.’”— Host Joe Scarborough on MS NOW’s Morning Joe, November 20.   Laughable: PBS and BBC Aren’t “Servicing Left-Wing Communities,” Do Cater to Conservatives  “I think in the United States public broadcasting also is an absolute must. And so to see the Corporation for Public Broadcasting be, you know, dismantled. To see the pressure against PBS and NPR when these are not servicing left-wing communities. These, and nor is the BBC, they service the entire country and often are most appreciated in some of the areas that actually tend to vote conservative and are not as serviced and satisfied and catered to by a lot of the other media.”— PBS host Christiane Amanpour on Christiane Amanpour Presents: The Ex Files podcast, November 14.   Does Acosta Think We’d Miss Them?      “I think the only solution to all of this is collective action. We need to see the networks get together, perhaps with some of the major newspapers. Send a letter to the White House, send it to Karoline Leavitt and say, ‘Listen, if the President does not stop these attacks, we’re not coming into your Oval Office. We’re not going to ride with you on Air Force One. You can have Fox and all these other sycophantic outlets covering you, but we’re just not going to do it. We’re going to take a break for a while until you clean up your act. That’s what I think they should do.”— Former CNN correspondent Jim Acosta on MS NOW’s Velshi, November 30.    Sunny Hostin: America is a “Sick” and “Racist” Country, “Based on Racism and Slavery”      “I think it’s ridiculous that people don’t see what this country was founded on and what this country still is sickened with. It’s a sick country. It’s a racist country.”— ABC’s The View co-host Sunny Hostin on Behind the Table podcast, November 18. “Because of my lived experience as an afro-Latina, I’m able to look at this world with a different prism and I’m able to tell this country and tell this audience and tell my fellow co-hosts some uncomfortable truths. This is a country based on racism and slavery and founded in it. There is systemic racism and misogyny….I never met anyone that raises their hand and says, ‘I am racist.’ However, there are people that seem to be able to look the other way when it comes to racism. So you have a president who traffics in misogyny, who traffics in xenophobia, who traffics in sexism and won against a black woman. So don’t tell me that this country is ready for a black woman.” — Co-host  Sunny Hostin on ABC’s The View, November 17.   Sunny Hostin Urges Democrats: “When They Go Low, You Go Lower!”    “The other huge takeaway for me, that I don’t think enough people are talking about, is what happened in California with Prop 50….That, for me, was a huge, huge takeaway, because that is the road map for how Democrats become the opposition party. You meet energy with energy. When they go low, you go lower!”— Co-host Sunny Hostin on ABC’s The View, November 5.    Democrats “Caved” to Trump’s “Cruelty”       “This was a choice by Republicans to cut SNAP benefits! This was a choice Republicans to cut ACA subsidies! This was a choice by the Republicans to gut the federal government and federal employment! Democrats had nothing to do with it. I want an opposition party! I think the Democrats caved! I think the Democrats let down the American people!...We’re not gonna get better, because with Donald Trump the cruelty is the point! He does not care! It’s a Republican choice!”— Co-host Sunny Hostin on ABC’s The View, November 10.     Sara Haines’ Case of Severe Memory Loss “The other thing I am so sick of hearing from Donald Trump is – once you become the president – I don’t remember an administration – and I could be standing to be corrected on this – that constantly talks about the left and the Democrats….I don’t remember Biden constantly saying ‘Republicans, Republican, Republicans.’ He talked about what we need to do.”— Co-host Sara Haines on ABC’s The View, November 18.    Stephen Colbert: “I’m More Conservative Than People Think”     “The demographics of these shows are interesting, too. It’s about a third, a third, a third. It’s about a third Republicans, a third Democrats, a third independents. You’d think, you know, old, you know, people perceive me as this sort of lefty figure. I think I'm more conservative than people think.”— CBS Late Show host Stephen Colbert on GQ Interview, November 3.

One night after hyping “disturbing images” out of Florida during a Border Patrol operation, ABC’s World News Tonight was at it again on Friday. This time, anchor David Muir and correspondent Pierre Thomas labeled the videos “alarming” and “harrowing” despite each of the three examples having a perfectly reasonable explanation. Muir kicked off the segment by declaring, “We move on to the alarming new images this evening. A woman seen being chased by federal agents near New Orleans, screaming to be left alone. She’s a U.S. citizen being chased by Border Patrol, but Homeland Security is now saying tonight it comes amid similar scenes playing out across the country as President Trump's immigration crackdown grows. Pierre Thomas with the images tonight.”     Thomas began his report with “harrowing video showing a woman frantically running away from federal agents in Louisiana. President Trump's nationwide immigration crackdown intensifies.” As it turns out, the episode was just a case of mistaken identity, “Masked border agents chasing that woman on foot as she screams in fear. Running into her house as her stepfather races outside. Initially thinking she was being kidnapped. Demanding answers. That woman was a 23-year-old U.S. citizen. DHS saying in a statement, “All agents left the area as soon as they determined the individual in question was not who they were looking for.’” Not deterred, Thomas tried again with the same video from Thursday's show, “That incident comes after federal agents pulled this woman out of a car during a border operation in Florida as she screamed she was a U.S. citizen.” However, that too had an innocent reason behind it, “Authorities placing her in handcuffs, briefly detaining her. Officials say she was driving her undocumented boyfriend's car and refused to comply with orders to identify herself.” Literally every person in America who is pulled over has to show law enforcement their driver’s license, but apparently this woman thought she was special and didn’t have to. Still not ready to let the issue go, Thomas highlighted, “Newly elected Arizona Congresswoman Adelita Grijalva claiming she was assaulted by ICE When she joined protesters who blocked a street in Tucson. She released this video of the alleged incident.” Grijalva herself then claimed, “This is the restaurant I come to literally once a week and was sprayed in the face by a very aggressive agent.” Thomas then concluded by reporting, “But tonight, Homeland Security officials pushing back, saying Grijalva was not targeted, but near someone who was pepper sprayed as they were obstructing and assaulting law enforcement. Critics say the immigration campaign has been too aggressive, but David, tonight Homeland Security officials are unapologetic.” According to the video that ABC showed, it was DHS that was being truthful. The officer did not target Grijalva, as her fellow activists broke the law by blocking the road. As Thomas was forced to admit, each of the incidents he showed were not videos that showed an increasingly dystopian society of ICE and Border Patrol operations targeting U.S. citizens, but operations that either had legitimate goals or ceased once it was clear there had been a mistake. Therefore, ABC should retire the sensationalist “disturbing,” “alarming,” and “harrowing” labels. Here is a transcript for the December 5 show: ABC World News Tonight 12/5/2025 6:34 PM ET DAVID MUIR: We move on to the alarming new images this evening. A woman seen being chased by federal agents near New Orleans, screaming to be left alone. She’s a U.S. citizen being chased by Border Patrol, but Homeland Security is now saying tonight it comes amid similar scenes playing out across the country as President Trump's immigration crackdown grows. Pierre Thomas with the images tonight. JACELYNN GUZMAN: Leave me alone! PIERRE THOMAS: Tonight, harrowing video showing a woman frantically running away from federal agents in Louisiana. President Trump's nationwide immigration crackdown intensifies. GUZMAN: Leave me alone! THOMAS: Masked border agents chasing that woman on foot as she screams in fear. Running into her house as her stepfather races outside. Initially thinking she was being kidnapped. Demanding answers. That woman was a 23-year-old U.S. citizen. DHS saying in a statement, “all agents left the area as soon as they determined the individual in question was not who they were looking for.” That incident comes after federal agents pulled this woman out of a car during a border operation in Florida as she screamed she was a U.S. citizen. WOMAN: I'm a U.S. citizen! Please help me! This is unfair, why are you doing this to me? THOMAS: Authorities placing her in handcuffs, briefly detaining her. Officials say she was driving her undocumented boyfriend's car and refused to comply with orders to identify herself. And tonight, newly elected Arizona Congresswoman Adelita Grijalva claiming she was assaulted by ICE When she joined protesters who blocked a street in Tucson. She released this video of the alleged incident. ADELITA GRIJALVA: This is the restaurant I come to literally once a week and was sprayed in the face by a very aggressive agent. THOMAS: But tonight, Homeland Security officials pushing back, saying Grijalva was not targeted, but near someone who was pepper sprayed as they were obstructing and assaulting law enforcement. Critics say the immigration campaign has been too aggressive, but David, tonight Homeland Security officials are unapologetic.

The holiday season is passing quickly. Thanksgiving is already in the rear view mirror, soon to be joined by Christmas and Hanukkah. And come the fast approaching January 1st the bell officially rings to welcome in 2026. Which is another way of saying, the 2026 congressional election year is about to dawn. Which, in turn, raises what should be obvious questions. Those questions would be:  How will the liberal “mainstream” media cover the 2026 election?  Will they make the election a referendum on President Trump?  As a result of 2026, who will the media pronounce the presumed winner in the 2028 presidential sweepstakes? For both parties? Common sense says that the answers to all of those questions are not yet knowable. And probably won’t be until the day after the 2026 election. But of one thing, based on past experience with the media, Americans can be sure. They know that the media coverage of the 2026 election will lean left. Beginning long before the election has even been held. With a heavy bias to saying that President Trump and Republicans are the losers.  The off-year elections gave Democrats great hope of a dramatic sweep to retake the House and Senate. Affordability and every other news topic will be grist for Democrats to blame the current status quo on the GOP. Redistricting offers hope of staying in the House majority, but can it match the sway of incessant media bias? In the long ago - the very long ago - of the 1960 presidential campaign between Democrat Senator John F. Kennedy and Republican Vice President Richard Nixon, Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Theodore H. White wrote what would be the first of many books and articles following and reporting in detail on a presidential campaign. In doing so White, writing in his bestselling The Making of the President 1960 described the press covering Democrat Kennedy as follows:  There is no doubt that this kindliness, respect and cultivation of the press colored all the reporting that came from the Kennedy campaign, and the contrast colored adversely the reporting of the Nixon campaign. By the last weeks of the campaign, those forty or fifty national correspondents who had followed Kennedy since the beginning of his electoral exertions into the November days had become more than a press corps-they had become his friends and, some of them, his most devoted admirers. When the bus or the plane rolled or flew through the night, they sang songs of their own composition about Mr. Nixon and the Republicans in chorus with the Kennedy staff and felt that they, too, were marching like soldiers of the Lord to the New Frontier. To say the least, there has been much political water over the political dam since 1960, and the shape of the media is very different. But the essence of the problem with the 1960 media following Democrat Kennedy as described by White remains -- if not being even more problematic. The hard fact here is that much of today’s media, as with the 1960 media and Nixon, has a visceral loathing of both President Trump and Republicans in general. Which in turn will, in 2026, affect the media coverage of the election. And affect that coverage both in terms of individual Senate, House and governor races as well as the overall coverage of the election in general.  So as the final lap of the holiday season approaches, rest up. Because when 2026 finally dawns, the media’s 2026 election coverage will begin. And it won’t be pretty.

There is something about the podcast world that encourages former network journalists to let the mask slip and reveal that they really were the liberal activists critics alleged they were all along. Former CBS anchor Connie Chung was the latest example, as she joined former ESPN and current Morning Joe talking head Pablo Torre on his Pablo Torre Finds Out Thursday show to discuss the alleged demise of CBS since David Ellison and Bari Weiss have taken over, despite any lack of significant changes. Torre set Chung up by wondering, “By the way, what's it like to watch CBS right now?”     Chung, who was on with husband Maury Povich, began by admitting, “We don't. I mean, I can't.” Usually when someone admits to not knowing anything about a topic, that is considered the end of their contributions to the discussion, but Chung continued, “The paradigm has completely changed in news, and we have so much opinion that the truth doesn't hold value anymore, and what we end up doing is trying to — we as consumers. Trying to find the truth. We can't find good old-fashioned facts, and it distresses me so terribly.” Chung also claimed that “CBS is a whole different realization that I had worked for. CBS has now been taken over, thanks to greedy owners: Sherry Redstone, partnering with David Ellison, Larry Ellison's son. And their greed has caused the venerable CBS to actually disassemble, to crash into crumbles, and then they've hired this—I don't know what to call Bari Weiss. “ Raining on both Chung and Torre’s entire premise, Povich wasn’t inclined to freak out, “Well, she was there the other day when Trump goes on 60 Minutes. I thought it was a decent interview. It was okay.” For Torre, the fact that the interview even happened was problematic: You’re talking about Nora O'Donnell's interview. Well, part of my concern, by the way, and I find it very, if I were you, I'd find it very difficult to watch the administration of CBS News wear the costume of CBS News, getting to cosplay to pretend that nothing is different even though the very premise of their acquisition of the network was, in fact, at the discretion and blessing of the president, who was the interview subject in that video that we're describing. And so just the very basic premise of that feels very hard to stomach if you care about anything resembling adversarial journalism. Chung agreed, “If you care about serious news. When I worked at CBS, it was owned by William Paley, and he actually—who made it a point of allowing the news division to be autonomous and not have to worry about the bottom line… We reporters are watchdogs of government. It's our job to report information that is not fed to us.  It would be nice to say that the liberal meltdowns about Weiss are well-founded and CBS has reformed itself, but the new management has had mixed results. On one hand, Weiss has gone after CBS’s woke excesses by sacking the Race and Culture unit, but on the other, CBS is still making Trump-East Germany comparisons, and Weiss is reportedly hiring Matt Gutman, the ABC reporter who said that Tyler Robinson’s texts with his trans furry lover were “very touching” after multiple other suspensions. Here is a transcript of the December 4 show: Pablo Torre Finds Out 12/4/2025 PABLO TORRE: By the way, what's it like to watch CBS right now? CONNIE CHUNG: We don't. I mean, I can't. The paradigm has completely changed in news, and we have so much opinion that the truth doesn't hold value anymore, and what we end up doing is trying to — we as consumers. Trying to find the truth. We can't find good old-fashioned facts, and it distresses me so terribly. CBS is a whole different realization that I had worked for. CBS has now been taken over, thanks to greedy owners: Sherry Redstone, partnering with David Ellison, Larry Ellison's son. And their greed has caused the venerable CBS to actually disassemble, to crash into crumbles, and then they've hired this—I don't know what to call Bari Weiss. MAURY POVICH: I don't either. CHUNG: She is, you know, I, I just don't know. POVICH: Yeah, but she's—you know, we'll see. CHUNG: It's not a big “we'll see” as if she could possibly restore— POVICH: Well, she was there the other day when Trump goes on 60 Minutes. I thought it was a decent interview. It was okay. TORRE: You’re talking about Nora O'Donnell's interview. CHUNG: Yes. TORRE: Well, part of my concern, by the way, and I find it very, if I were you, I'd find it very difficult to watch the administration of CBS News wear the costume of CBS News, getting to cosplay to pretend that nothing is different even though the very premise of their acquisition of the network was, in fact, at the discretion and blessing of the president, who was the interview subject in that video that we're describing. CHUNG: That’s right. TORRE: And so just the very basic premise of that feels very hard to stomach if you care about anything resembling adversarial journalism. CHUNG: Journalism. If you care about serious news. When I worked at CBS, it was owned by William Paley, and he actually—who made it a point of allowing the news division to be autonomous and not have to worry about the bottom line. He had a president by the name of Frank Stanton, who went before Congress time and time again to defend the fourth estate. Now we have a complete dismantling of that kind of social responsibility. That we are watchdogs. We reporters are watchdogs of government. It's our job to report information that is not fed to us.