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Chris Matthews Says Iran Gets ‘Help of American Media’ In Conflicts
On Tuesday’s Morning Joe, former MSNBC host Chris Matthews acknowledged Iran has always used the “help of American media” to peddle images of war back to the American audience to hurt the opinions of American presidents, including his former boss, President Jimmy Carter, amid the Iranian hostage crisis.
But, of course, Matthews helped peddle that same Iranian propaganda further in their discussion as he said any future U.S. military actions in Iran would be “war crimes.”
Morning Joe regular Mike Barnicle asked Matthews about the experience with Iranians amid the Carter hostage crisis. “Iranians seem to have been playing their tune for us, and we've been going along with it for a long, long time,” Barnicle said.
On Morning Joe, Chris Matthews said the Iranians get "the help of the American Media," as he compared the current coverage of the Iran War to the Iranian Hostage Crisis under Jimmy Carter, whom Matthews worked for.
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Matthews followed with a story of the 1980 presidential campaign amid the crisis. He recounted that there was a moment in the campaign when it seemed the Iranian mullahs might release the hostages, but they were “tricked.”
He then remembered the coverage by Walter Cronkite as he started to allude to media coverage of Iran in that crisis as a comparison:
The ayatollah and all that gang knew they were going to screw Carter one more time. And so the day before the 1980 election, Walter Cronkite led with the hostage crisis anniversary. It wasn't even the next election the next day, it was the anniversary of the hostage taking. And American held hostage was on every night at 11:30. It never stopped.
Then, Matthews recalled the coverage then as the Iranians hurting Carter, with “the help of American media”:
They kept the heat on him in the media, day after day after day, with the help of the American media, and he could never get past it. So, I look at Trump and what he's facing right now when you talked about this morning, and these options aren't there.
What Matthews discussed in terms of American media around 1980 was very similar to coverage today, in the media’s usage of Iranian State Media as primary sources, as seen on CNN and other mainstream networks.
Just as he talked about the media, he echoed a constant Democrat and media talking point of war crimes:
You can't go back and start committing war crimes, attacking power plants and desalination facilities, and all that. You can't do that. You're going to start killing people, and it's going to be all over the news. And guess how we're going to know about it? The Iranians will make sure we'll know about every girl’s school that gets hit, every hospital that's hit, everything we do wrong, every war crime that looks like a war crime, we'll know all about it because they're really good at this.
After Jonathan Lemire and Joe Scarborough talked about Iranian A.I. LEGO propaganda memes, Matthews joined back in and feared of a girls’ school being hit among other war action:
If we do that again, and we will do that again, if we start doing saturation bombing and we start hitting critical facilities that affect people's lives, we're going to get into killing people. And I think Trump must know that.
Even after Chris Matthews illustrated how Iranians manipulate U.S. media, Matthews and the Morning Joe crew proceeded to demonstrate it firsthand.
The transcript is below. Click "expand":
MS NOW’s Morning Joe
May 12, 2026
7:08:34 AM Eastern
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MIKE BARNICLE: Chris, listening to David and listening to the conversations that have been taking place here this morning around the table about Iran, and for the past couple of weeks about Iran. Let's talk about another president, a president who you served, Jimmy Carter. And let's talk about the hostage taking by the Iranians.
The Iranians seem to have been playing their tune for us, and we've been going along with it for a long, long time.
CHRIS MATTHEWS: Well, I was listening to Joe yesterday morning, and I was thrown back 46 years, almost a half a century, to being on Air Force One with President Carter on the Saturday before the election of 1980.
And of course, we went to - back in those days, we were still, Democrats were still trying to get Texas. We spent five different stops at the airports. We have 10,000 people waiting for you at the airport, in the stands there. And we went all through Texas the day before, and that, on Saturday. Then we went to Milwaukee late that night, and then we - Carter threw on an Italian sports heroes program about midnight because Marty Russo, the congressman, got him to do that. And then at two in the morning, Hamilton Jordan showed up in Chicago to say, “the mullahs are voting. It looks like there might be a chance we'll get the hostages back before the election.”
And there it was, an opportunity. We flew back to Washington. And, once again, the mullahs tricked us. The ayatollah and all that gang knew they were going to screw Carter one more time. And so the day before the 1980 election, Walter Cronkite led with the hostage crisis anniversary. It wasn't even the next election the next day, it was the anniversary of the hostage taking. And American held hostage was on every night at 11:30. It never stopped.
The Iranians knew exactly how to screw Carter. They kept the heat on him in the media, day after day after day, with the help of the American media, and he could never get past it. So, I look at Trump and what he's facing right now when you talked about this morning,, and these options aren't there.
You can't go back and start committing war crimes, attacking power plants and desalination facilities, and all that. You can't do that. You're going to start killing people, and it's going to be all over the news. And guess how we're going to know about it? The Iranians will make sure we'll know about every girls school that gets hit, every hospital that's hit, everything we do wrong, every war crime that looks like a war crime, we'll know all about it because they're really good at this, Mike.
They really keep up with our media and how to screw an American president, and they're going to do it again.
JOE SCARBOROUGH: Well, and let's compare what happened in 79 and 80. They would always make sure, and Chris talked about this before when he was here, and always make sure they would burn an American flag in front of American television cameras to make sure that American flag being burned would be shown in the United States, make the president look even weaker. They would parade out hostages with blindfolds.
They would do all of these horrific things that would enrage Americans, knowing that the American president couldn't do anything about it. And they would just keep -
MIKA BRZEZINSKI: They were ruthless.
SCARBOROUGH: - pulling the string and pulling the string. And it cost Carter the presidency. They're doing the same thing now. And I'm not being glib when I say this. They're not burning American flags. They're doing memes.
JONATHAN LEMIRE: Yeah.
SCARBOROUGH: They're hitting where it hurts the most now in this new culture. And like Legos and teletubbies and all of these things that actually burning an American flag would play into Trump's strength to say, we're going to fight, we're going to do this.
But now they're mocking him ruthlessly because they understand that that's how you get to him the most.
LEMIRE: And how many times have we heard Donald Trump over the last ten years complain that the world is laughing at the United States right now? Iran is laughing at him. They do know what buttons to push. It's a very online presidency. It's an online nation right now. And people are seeing these memes, and the president doesn't have a great way of responding -
SCARBOROUGH: Like, how about the example of like when he said something like, I need an answer by eight, or we're going to destroy your civilization? They quickly responded and said, that's not a good time for us. How about two in the morning? Yeah. And so it's a - even when he's trying to be tough online, the Iranians know how to mock him and ridicule him.
And again, this isn't just about Donald Trump. This is what we're saying here is this is about every American president that crosses them. They know how to pull the strings. And now, as Doctor Brzezinski warned, as everybody else warned about for decades, now they have the straight.
LEMIRE: Yeah. Tehran has specialized in humiliating American presidents for a long time. And just a few more examples here. Let's remember they've blown off deadlines. They've ignored threats. The time where the foreign minister was in Islamabad and the U.S. negotiating team was heading to the airport to fly to Islamabad to meet them. And the foreign minister simply left like they knew. They're poking, you know, the president where it hurts.
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7:15:45 AM Eastern
MATTHEWS: So I think it's the fear of another girl's school being hit, because we all got tremendous clearance as media people to go in there and get that story. One thing the Iranians are good at is letting Americans know the bad stories about themselves, and they will let the country know how bad it was that we accidentally hit that girls' school.
If we do that again, and we will do that again, if we start doing saturation bombing and we start hitting critical facilities that affect people's lives, we're going to get into killing people. And I think Trump must know that.
I think Admiral Stavridis, his third option, seems like the one going to keep trying to open the straits, just limited warfare just in one part of the country, the strait itself. Try to open that up. It seems like that is what he was recommending, I think.
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