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TDS: ABC’s ‘GMA’ Levels SEVEN Anti-Trump Reports Before Previewing NASA Launch
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TDS: ABC’s ‘GMA’ Levels SEVEN Anti-Trump Reports Before Previewing NASA Launch

How much does ABC News hate Donald Trump and his administration? And how far will they go to show they don’t want viewers to care about anything except hating Trump? On the day of perhaps the most important moment in U.S. space history since 1972, Wednesday’s Good Morning America took over 15 minutes and seven anti-Trump team reports before it finally started covering in earnest the possible launch of NASA’s Artemis II on a flight around the moon. It began with co-host and former Clinton official George Stephanopoulos trying to scare Americans over Trump’s “massive statement” to The Telegraph in an interview posted just prior to the show that, for the umpteenth time, he’s mulling the idea of withdrawing the U.S. from NATO. Chief Washington correspondent and four-time anti-Trump author Jonathan Karl similarly huffed that Trump has the country mired in “a war that most Americans say they do not support” but has nonetheless “threatened a major escalation of U.S. attacks on Iran.” Here was the start of the 12 minutes and 36 seconds of Trump bashing Wednesday on ABC’s ‘Good Morning America’ before they actually covered the upcoming NASA launch (which they had only teased for a few seconds prior) George Stephanopoulos *really* wants you to be scared to… pic.twitter.com/q5693SnoZ3 — Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) April 1, 2026 On Trump’s latest prediction the war would end soon, Karl scoffed “many” of these statements have been uttered throughout the war, but “have come and gone without consequence” and thus prolonged “the pain of war” Americas have felt at the gas pump with gas “nearly $6 a gallon in California.” Of course, ABC would never explain why California gas is so expensive. The end of Karl’s segment was just as bad as he said Trump’s primetime address on Iran would happen “as a new Ipsos poll out this week shows 60 percent of Americans disapprove of U.S. military strikes on Iran, and that nearly two thirds of Americans want to see the U.S. — to — work to end the conflict quickly.” After Stephanopoulos wanted to dwell on the NATO comments, Karl and Stephanopoulos seemed a combination of befuddled and disgusted how calm Trump came off in a phone chat with Karl (click “expand”): The end of the Karl-Stephanopoulos chitchat was just as bad. Karl came off as disgusted that President Trump, in a phone interview with him yesterday, came off as “somebody who doesn’t have a concern in the world” and “extremely confidence” in taking on Iran pic.twitter.com/OuXswHihWM — Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) April 1, 2026 KARL: Yeah. Look, I have to say one thing that struck me. I spoke to him for about 20 minutes, yet — in the middle of the day, in the middle of the work day, he seems like somebody who doesn’t have a concern in the world. He seems extremely confident that the war is going to be just fine, that Americans will turn around and support it. The prices will come back down. He spent a lot of time, George, talking not just about Iran, but about the ballroom that he is building, which was stopped yesterday, about the fact that his signature is going to be on the dollar bill, that they’re renaming the airport in Palm Beach. Even talking about plans for the library that his son Eric is working on in Florida. He really seemed like a man that was not troubled at all by what was going on. STEPHANOPOULOS: In the middle of the war. KARL: All in the middle of the war. STEPHANOPOULOS: Yeah. Jon Karl, thanks very much. ROBERTS: That says a lot. Next, correspondent Matt Rivers delivered the ABC’s dose of negative nellies from the Middle East. .@MattRiversABC reports from Qatar with the latest on the war with Iran. pic.twitter.com/yIcNgw0gna — Good Morning America (@GMA) April 1, 2026 The focus then returned to the mainland and more Stephanopoulos pontificating: “And we’re going to get the latest now on President Trump’s attempts to interfere with the midterm elections, signing an executive order on mail-in voting. The critics are preparing to challenge in court, calling it unconstitutional.” “Interfere” in an election? The gall of these people never ceases to amaze. IRONY ALERT: ABC’s George Stephanopoulos and Mary Bruce argue President Trump’s executive order on voter integrity is a new chapter in “President Trump’s attempts to interfere with the midterm elections,” “sow distrust,” and “undermine confidence in the nation’s elections” pic.twitter.com/Q3bPGjOmIZ — Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) April 1, 2026 Chief White House correspondent and Biden regime apple polisher Mary Bruce followed in Stephanopoulos’s footsteps by calling President Trump’s executive order to protect voter integrity “just the latest in a series of actions taken by the President to undermine confidence in the nation’s elections ahead of the midterms” through “false claims” about the electoral system. Bruce giddily proclaimed: “Election experts say the order is unconstitutional and not enforceable. Democrats labeling it illegal and a blatant, unconstitutional abuse of power. Minority Leader Chuck Schumer saying bluntly: ‘See you in court. You will lose.’ Top election officials in Oregon and Arizona — states that rely heavily on mail in voting — already vowing to sue.” She derided the subject of protecting the electoral system as ludicrous, arguing Trump “has increasingly sought to sow distrust in the nation’s elections” and “railed against mail-in voting, claiming without evidence that it leads to ‘cheating,’ but cases of fraud involving mail-in ballots are extremely rare” Bruce threw in a mention of the SAVE America Act as well: “And for weeks, the President has been pushing for Congress to pass the SAVE Act, which would impose new restrictions on voting in mail-in ballots. But, George, that bill has no clear path forward.” Skipping past another Stephanopoulos-Bruce segment about a federal judge ruling against the President’s ballroom project, chief global affairs anchor Martha Raddatz joined the fray to knock Secretary of War Hegseth intervening in the bizarre incident with Kid Rock and an Apache helicopter crew: Secretary Pete Hegseth announced there will be "no punishment" for the pilots involved in the flyby of two Apache attack helicopters near Kid Rock's Nashville, Tennessee home. @MarthaRaddatz reports. pic.twitter.com/KiEEOC7vqs — Good Morning America (@GMA) April 1, 2026 Hegseth received a second negative report as correspondent Elizabeth Schulze gushed over House Oversight Committee Democrats looking to investigate him over a story in the Financial Times alleging, in her words, “a broker for Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth tried to make a multi-million dollar investment into a fund with defense stocks weeks before the Iran war.” Democratic lawmakers are launching an investigation after a Financial Times report claimed that a broker for Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth tried to invest in a fund holding defense stocks weeks before the Iran war. @eschulze reports. pic.twitter.com/DpJ7lIZt7s — Good Morning America (@GMA) April 1, 2026 The final Trump administration hit piece was perhaps the dumbest. “Going to turn now to a federal judge in Philadelphia allowing the Trump administration to collect information about Jewish people on the campus of the University of Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, over the objection of student and faculty groups,” co-host Robin Roberts began. You see, dear readers, the implication is the administration are the real anti-Semites! Before finally covering NASA, the final anti-Trump hit piece on ABC’s ‘Good Morning America’ was perhaps the dumbest one of all in which ABC argued it’s the Trump administration who are the REAL anti-Semites. Why? Because they’re seeking the names of U-Penn Jewish students so… pic.twitter.com/NietSevuOz — Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) April 1, 2026 Chief investigative correspondent Aaron Katersky solemnly divulged a “judge in Philadelphia ordered the University of Pennsylvania to turn over a list of Jewish employees so the Trump administration can investigate claims of anti-Semitism,” but the school will appeal because doing so “evoked the tactics of Nazi Germany before the Holocaust.” “The judge calling that comparison unfortunate and inappropriate. And though he conceded the administration’s subpoena was ineptly worded, he ordered Penn to comply. The judge saying the administration had an understandable purpose to find out if Penn’s Jewish community experienced or witnessed anti-Semitism in the workplace,” he added. Katersky put his thumb on the scale with the declaration that doing so “raises serious privacy and First Amendment concerns.” Unsurprisingly, Roberts agreed, saying “it does.” CBS Mornings and NBC’s Today didn’t have this problem of deciding on what the real top story is as they placed NASA on the front burner with multiple lead-off reports. To see the relevant ABC transcript from April 1, click here.

Levin: Ruling Against Birthright Citizenship Should Be a ‘Slam-Dunk’ for Supreme Court
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Levin: Ruling Against Birthright Citizenship Should Be a ‘Slam-Dunk’ for Supreme Court

It should be “a slam-dunk” for the Supreme Court to rule against birthright citizenship – if it rules based on the original meaning of the text of the U.S. Constitution and the history of the 14th Amendment – Constitutional Scholar and conservative commentator Mark Levin says. On Wednesday, the Supreme Court began hearing oral arguments in Trump v. Barbara, a birthright citizenship case concerning whether anyone born on U.S. soil, such as the child of an illegal immigrant, has automatic U.S. citizenship. Levin discusses the case and the issue of birthright citizenship in a clip from his Liberty’s Voice podcast posted on social media Wednesday. “It’s a fraud,” Levin says of the concept of birthright citizenship, noting that it’s not in either the U.S. Constitution or any federal law: “It’s completely made up; it’s a fiction.” As an example, Levin cites tourists from other countries who give birth in the U.S.: “The country from which the tourist comes doesn’t recognize that child as an American citizen. They recognize them as, for example, a citizen of France or Britain and so forth. “So, how can it be that an illegal alien comes across the border, they have a child, and that child is automatically an American citizen? “Nobody, no court has ever ruled that. Nobody, nobody has ever passed legislation saying that. And, yet, that is the way it is treated.” Levin details how the history and original intent of the 14th Amendment also belie the case of those who cite it as justification for granting birthright citizenship. So, while the justices will be subjected to “different kinds of arguments that will be mostly political dressed up as legal or potentially constitutional,” ruling against birthright citizenship should be easy, Levin says: “Because, if this decision is made based on the text, that is the original meaning, the original meaning of ‘jurisdiction,’ if it’s based on the history surrounding the amendment, if it’s based on the history leading up to the amendment and that civil rights law, it’s a slam-dunk case against birthright citizenship.” “I’m hoping that birthright citizenship is ruled unconstitutional, but that might be a bridge too far for this particular court,” Levin says. “I’m hoping that at least they rule that it is not compelled by the Constitution.” Fear of threats – and of being criticized by leftist media like The New York Times – could end up influencing some of the justices, Levin cautions: “I think some of the justices, well, they don’t like being threatened. They don’t like people with bullhorns in front of their homes, as in the Dobbs decision. In other words, they don’t want history to write very negatively of them through The New York Times and the Left, which controls so many of our institutions. “It’s just easier to go along. So, I think for some of the justices, perhaps, perhaps that will be in the back of their minds, too.” “I think the court may look for an off-ramp. I don’t know what is. I hope they don’t find it,” Levin says: “I hope they rule straight-up that the Constitution does not compel this, that no federal law compels this.” “But, we’re about to find out,” Levin says. pic.twitter.com/Nh7cjD31Wu — Mark R. Levin (@marklevinshow) April 1, 2026

‘Crazy’ View Co-Host Suggests Trump Sending Child Soldiers to Iran
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‘Crazy’ View Co-Host Suggests Trump Sending Child Soldiers to Iran

ABC News program The View was scrapping the bottom of the barrel for guest co-hosts willing to come on and fill-in while Alyssa Farah Griffin was on maternity leave. So much so that they apparently had given up trying to get “conservative” and “Republican” women and settled on “life-long progressive” comedian Whitney Cummings. On Wednesday’s show, Cummings, who admitted earlier in the week that all her doctors say she’s literally “crazy,” suggested Trump was sending child soldiers to fight Iran and seemingly suggested that Trump was linked to “child slaves” from Jeffrey Epstein. Cummings’ comments came following a soundbite of President Trump trying to explain that the 14th Amendment was meant to allow the children of newly freed slaves to become citizens. Despite the fact that legal challenges to Trump’s effort to end birthright citizenship had been working their way through the legal system for months, moderator Whoopi Goldberg suggested that the U.S. Supreme Court oral arguments for the case, which were happening as they spoke, were designed to be a distraction from the Epstein files: I think this is all to add to chaos, because he wrote that executive order, everybody pushed back on it and said, you can't do that. That will dismantle so much other stuff. So what is -- Is it just to keep the chaos going to keep us from talking about the Epstein files? It’s worth the reminder that Goldberg was named in the Epstein files regarding a request to borrow the convicted pedophile’s infamous private jet. Cummings followed up by suggesting that when she heard Trump talking about “child slaves” she thought he was talking about the Epstein files, and hinted that Trump was linked to the “child slaves” by citing how many times the files supposedly referred to him. She also falsely claimed he would be going to a hearing about the files: When he mentioned child slaves, I was like, ‘oh, is he talking about the Epstein files’ which he’s mentioned in in over half a million of them and there's still 2 million that need to come out. Also, he’s going to a hearing, Epstein hearing, he’s going to have to, you know, show up at that one.   On The View, "progressive" comedian Whitney Cummins, who admitted yesterday all her doctors have diagnosed her as "crazy," suggests Trump has "child slaves" he got from Epstein and claims he's sending child soldiers to fight Iran. pic.twitter.com/lfws4qrGB6 — Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) April 1, 2026   Keeping on the topic of children, Cummings then seemed to suggest that Trump was sending in children to invade Iran: You know, look, you know, to me the first thing I thought is like instead of focusing on these, you know, children that might be born in America, like how about the children who are already born here that you are sending to a senseless war. Let's maybe spend some time and energy on that. Now, she might argue she was talking about the soldiers as being someone’s kids, but every single one of America’s service members were adults. Adults who knew what they signed up for and knew what the possibilities were. Cummings also made the wild claim that when she visited London, random cab drivers tell her to tell American women to stop traveling to the U.K. to give birth: Also, you know, I was just in London. My brother lives there and my nieces and nephew. And every time I got in a cab, the cab drivers went, ‘can you tell your friends in America to stop coming over here pregnant and having babies here,’ because it is officially cheaper to fly to London, give birth in a hospital there, and then fly back than it is to give birth in America. So, how about focus on making it so that women can give birth here and not go broke. It’s also worth noting that earlier in the week, Cummings whined that all her “doctors and psychiatrists” had diagnosed her as “crazy” and seriously suggested it was evidence that they “hate women”: I think there's a lot of ways that um - you know - um, it's more insidious when men get older and still hate women in different ways. You know, whether it's doctors and psychiatrists are finding new ways to dismiss our symptoms to call us crazy, every time I go in to just talk about my feelings, I got diagnosed with ADD and OCD, and I don't have either. You're boring and I'm busy. I don't need to go on a medication because I have stuff to do.   "Progressive" comedian and guest co-host for The View Whitney Cummings claims all men hate women and says she's tired of doctors calling her "crazy." Joy Behar blames talk radio. pic.twitter.com/0grlLW0nGM — Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) March 31, 2026   Sure. Whatever you say. The transcript is below. Click "expand" to read: ABC’s The View April 1, 2026 11:04:09 a.m. Eastern (…) WHOOPI GOLDBERG: But my question is, why are you that - what are you - what is -- what - I - [Stops herself and takes a breath] [Laughter] I think this is all to add to chaos, because he wrote that executive order, everybody pushed back on it and said, you can't do that. That will dismantle so much other stuff. So what is -- Is it just to keep the chaos going to keep us from talking about the Epstein files? WHITNEY CUMMINGS: I was going to say, like look - GOLDBERG: From talking about all the other stuff that we keep bringing up. CUMMINGS: When he mentioned child slaves, I was like, ‘oh, is he talking about the Epstein files’ which he’s mentioned in in over half a million of them and there's still 2 million that need to come out. Also, he’s going to a hearing, Epstein hearing, he’s going to have to, you know, show up at that one. You know, look, you know, to me the first thing I thought is like instead of focusing on these, you know, children that might be born in America, like how about the children who are already born here that you are sending to a senseless war. Let's maybe spend some time and energy on that. [Applause] Also, you know, I was just in London. My brother lives there and my nieces and nephew. And every time I got in a cab, the cab drivers went, ‘can you tell your friends in America to stop coming over here pregnant and having babies here,’ because it is officially cheaper to fly to London, give birth in a hospital there, and then fly back than it is to give birth in America. So, how about focus on making it so that women can give birth here and not go broke. (…)

Google News Skips Indicted Dem’s Ethics Trial, Spotlights NYT Spelling Bee Instead
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Google News Skips Indicted Dem’s Ethics Trial, Spotlights NYT Spelling Bee Instead

Google News prioritized keeping The New York Times afloat over promoting stories exposing an alleged Democrat fraudster and congresswoman who set the modern record for bilking more from taxpayers than any other member of the House of Representatives in over 100 years. Google News, Apple News and other news aggregators represent to their users that the information delivered to their phones, computers and devices reliably reflects the news. Google, however, chose to suppress news about Rep. Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick (D-FL), who was indicted for allegedly stealing millions in taxpayer-funded FEMA grants. Instead, Google News helped its favorite media outlet, The Times, draw users to the Grey Lady’s popular and profitable games section. MRC President David Bozell reacted to Google’s apparent funding scheme to direct ad revenue to its ally, saying: “Most New York Times readers just jump to Wordle, Spelling Bee and Connections. It seems clear to me that Google is trying to keep The Times financially solvent. For both Google and The Times, the phrase ‘All the News That’s Fit to Print’ is now more myth than mission.”   Dan Schneider, MRC Free Speech America’s vice president, echoed Bozell’s comments in response to Google: “Like the New York Times, Google has an agenda to radicalize the country and upend American values. So it is no surprise that it uses its trillions of dollars of assets to prop up the Times, its partner in crime. Google is basically the largest financier and ad agency for liberal media outlets around the world.” Among its top 20 daily morning headlines in the four days following Cherfilus-McCormick’s ethics hearing, Google promoted a puzzling story. The headline simply read “NYT Spelling Bee Hints for March 29, 2026.” The story linked to a page at The New York Times that promoted hints and tips for its daily Spelling Bee game. Games such as Spelling Bee and Wordle provide the leftist news outlet with more traffic than its actual news pages, and those games come with ad revenue that is helping keep the outlet afloat.  Google also ran eight headlines about the “No Kings” protests, including one insisting that the demonstrations did not go nearly far enough and should include more “confrontation in the future.”  The tech giant completely ignored any coverage of the House Ethics Panel trial of Cherfilus-McCormick, which ended with a broad, bipartisan consensus and a guilty verdict on 25 separate ethics charges. Google News kept the scandal out of its top 20 headlines for four days after the panel’s findings were announced — a total of 80 missed opportunities between March 27 and 30. In contrast, even Apple News and Microsoft’s MSN published stories about the Cherfilus-McCormick scandal.  While such proceedings are typically handled behind closed doors, the panel elected to televise all seven hours of the Cherfilus-McCormick trial. Cherfilus-McCormick is now facing a criminal trial on charges that she allegedly stole and laundered $5 million in FEMA relief funds through her own company, with a grand jury indictment claiming that a portion of the ill-gotten gains directly funded her successful congressional race. Cherfilus-McCormick, who has refused to resign from office, faces a maximum penalty of 53 years in prison if convicted. Rarely does a sitting member of Congress face a rebuke this damning from the House Ethics Committee while also facing a grand jury indictment. Historical records indicate that the last time a member of Congress was involved in allegedly stealing more was in 1870, shortly after the Civil War.    Methodology: On Mar. 27-30, 2026, MRC researchers examined the top 20 stories promoted on Google News each morning at approximately 8:30 AM EDT. Researchers analyzed the 80 headlines and reported on the results.   Free speech is under attack! Contact your representatives and demand that Big Tech be held to account to mirror the First Amendment while providing transparency, clarity on hate speech and equal footing for conservatives. If you have been censored, contact us using CensorTrack’s contact form, and help us hold Big Tech accountable.    

Don Lemon Thinks He Could Be President, But Racism Is Holding Him Back
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Don Lemon Thinks He Could Be President, But Racism Is Holding Him Back

Former CNN anchor-turned podcaster-turned federal defendant Don Lemon joined MS NOW analyst and Pod Save America’s Alex Wagner on Sunday for a lengthy discussion that included Lemon confidently proclaiming he would make a good president. According to Lemon, the two biggest obstacles for him in getting elected are racism and the nonsensical idea that he’s an independent. Wagner wondered, “Do you think you might ever run for office?” and after a bit of silence, “Oh boy, that was a long pause, Don.”  Lemon claimed that “I hear that all the time” and claimed that, on one hand, he hears from the voices in his head, “First, I hear, 'I don't want to ruin my life. Why would I invite that sort of even more criticism and whatever?' I don't—why would I want to ruin my life with people digging into, you know, everything about me and campaign ads putting everything that I've ever said that’s deemed controversial.”   Before this, Lemon suggested he would have a hard time getting elected because he's not a white guy, "I'm not a white man and the rules are different for me. And so, just like the rules, I believe sadly, are different for women. They're different for Hillary Clinton, for Nikki… pic.twitter.com/tkKC6f4mN3 — Alex Christy (@alexchristy17) April 1, 2026   On the other hand, Lemon claimed, “But I don't even think people would care about that.” After rattling off some things that President Trump has said in the past, Lemon got to his usual playing of the race card with a rather pathetic attempt to defend his comments about Nikki Haley that got him fired from CNN in the first place: But also, I'm not a white man, and the rules are different for me. And so, just like the rules, I believe sadly, are different for women. They're different for Hillary Clinton, for Nikki Haley, which was one of the reasons that I that, you know, what, that I, what I meant to say, they're different for Kamala Harris, they're different for Alex Wagner, and white men get away with way more than, you know, women or black people or any minority, and so I think the rules are different, but I don't know why would I invite that criticism.  Skipping straight to the highest office in the land, Lemon continued, “My mentors will say 'Why do you want to take a pay cut?' But it's not about money for me. So, do I ever think about it? Yes. Could it happen? Yeah, it could happen if the opportunity presented itself, the right opportunity presented itself. Look, if I wanted to, I know people are gonna think I'm crazy. This is gonna be the headline and people are gonna laugh about it. I think I could be president of the United States. I could definitely run this country better than Donald Trump.”  Wagner quipped, “A paper towel roll could, but yes, you, you would be a marked improvement.” Contrary to all evidence and reason, Lemon then claimed that the fact that he is an independent would also hurt him, “As an independent, though, there would be a hard time for me to run for anything because, you know, the way the system is set up, I'd have to choose a side. And so, you know, I probably would, I probably would have to become a Democrat.”   Don Lemon: "People are gonna think I’m crazy, this is gonna be the headline & people are going to laugh about it [but] I could be president of the United States ... I could come in & fix the bulk of their problems in lickety split in no time flat." pic.twitter.com/QM7B25ZL2t — Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) April 1, 2026   He then tried to compare himself with Barack Obama, “And, yeah, so, you know, am I at that point now? No. And I know people are gonna say Don Lemon is crazy, but yeah, and that's, look. Why can't I think about running for office? Why can't I think about being President of the United States when, look at what we have. When anybody, did anybody think Barack Obama, as he says, this guy with a funny name, is from a mixed background. Did anybody ever think that he would become president, that he had that aspiration?” As if he wasn’t on enough of an ego trip, Lemon then claimed that he could turn around the journalism profession in an instant if only given the opportunity, “I don't have an aspiration to become president, but I do think that I could run this country a lot better than Donald Trump. You know what else I think that I could run better than most people? And I was, I actually talked about to my husband about that last night: a news organization. Because I was there, I've been in the game for so long, and I'm not interested in being, you know, the anchor out front. I could come in and fix the bulk of their problems in lickety split, in no time flat.” Essentially, Lemon spent several minutes trying to articulate that the reason that the world is so messed up is because he is not in charge of it and Americans. Here is a transcript for the March 29 show: Pod Save America 3/29/2026 ALEX WAGNER: Do you think you might ever run for office? [Silence] Oh boy, that was a long pause, Don DON LEMON. Ugh, I hear that all the time. WAGNER: Uh-huh. Yeah. And then what do you think of—what happens in your head when you hear it? LEMON: First, I hear, “I don't want to ruin my life. Why would I invite that sort of even more criticism and whatever?” I don't—why would I want to ruin my life with people digging into, you know, everything about me and campaign ads putting everything that I've ever said that’s deemed controversial. But I don't even think people would care about that. So— WAGNER: Donald Trump. LEMON: — I think they would—right. I've never said that I was going to grab anybody by the pussy, right? So— WAGNER: That doesn't surprise me, Don. LEMON: I've never said I've never said that a woman had blood coming out of her wherever. WAGNER: Yes. LEMON: But also, I'm not a white man, and the rules are different for me. And so, just like the rules, I believe sadly, are different for women. They're different for Hillary Clinton, for Nikki Haley, which was one of the reasons that I that, you know, what, that I, what I meant to say, they're different for Kamala Harris, they're different for Alex Wagner, and white men get away with way more than, you know, women or black people or any minority, and so I think the rules are different, but I don't know why would I invite that criticism and you know—the people who—my mentors will say “Why do you want to take a pay cut?” But it's not about money for me. So, do I ever think about it? Yes. Could it happen? Yeah, it could happen if the opportunity presented itself, the right opportunity presented itself. Look, if I wanted to, I know people are gonna think I'm crazy. This is gonna be the headline and people are gonna laugh about it. I think I could be president of the United States. I could definitely run this country better than Donald Trump. WAGNER: A paper towel roll could, but yes, you, you would be a marked improvement. LEMON: As an independent, though, there would be a hard time for me to run for anything because, you know, the way the system is set up, I'd have to choose a side. And so, you know, I probably would, I probably would have to become a Democrat. And, yeah, so, you know, am I at that point now? No. And I know people are gonna say Don Lemon is crazy, but yeah, and that's, look. Why can't I think about running for office? Why can't I think about being President of the United States when, look at what we have. When anybody, did anybody think Barack Obama, as he says, this guy with a funny name, is from a mixed background. Did anybody ever think that he would become president, that he had that aspiration? I don't have an aspiration to become president, but I do think that I could run this country a lot better than Donald Trump. You know what else I think that I could run better than most people? And I was, I actually talked about to my husband about that last night: a news organization. Because I was there, I've been in the game for so long, and I'm not interested in being, you know, the anchor out front. I could come in and fix the bulk of their problems in lickety split, in no time flat. WAGNER: Boom. LEMON: Boom.