ABC and NBC broke in Wednesday with network special reports on the Justice Department’s historic indictments against Raúl Castro and five others in the deadly 1996 shootdown of aircraft related to the pro-freedom Brothers to the Rescue group that resulted in the deaths of four men. While NBC delivered a proper history lesson and gave no quarter to the murderous communist regime, ABC channeled its long history of excusing the regime by framing this as largely a Trump political play. ABC’s World News Tonight anchor David Muir opened by framing the announcement at Miami’s Freedom Tower on the 124th anniversary of Cuban independence through Trump-tinted lenses, telling viewers this was all about a “major escalation” and “rising tensions between the U.S. and Cuba.” Notice ABC's David Muir opened the network's Special Report on the DOJ/Castro indictments through the lens of Trump, Trump, Trump, such as here: “President Trump previously imposing a blockade of oil shipments to Cuba in an effort to continue to cripple Cuba’s economy.” pic.twitter.com/SPNeInKP3T — Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) May 20, 2026 Muir huffed the murder charges of 94-year-old Castro came after Trump took foreign policy “action, of course, in Venezuela, then Iran” and, in Cuba, “impos[ed] a blockade of oil shipments to Cuba in an effort to continue to cripple Cuba’s economy.” “President Trump has said in recent months that the U.S. was in talks with Havana. He raised the possibility of a friendly takeover of Cuba, in his words. And the President has said Cuba is going to fall pretty soon in his words as well,” he added. Muir channeled his predecessors Peter Jennings and Diane Sawyer by giving daylight to the commies. In 1989, Jennings gushed over Fidel Castro as having “delivered the most to those who had the least” and become “a model of development” on education, literacy, and “world-class” medical care. All of it, Jennings argued, served as “great success stories” to Castro’s (violent) revolution. In 1993, Sawyer swooned Raúl’s brother prevailed because of his “invincible certainty of their destiny” and, in 2008, said Fidel “knew life is a stage and played the part of the dashing revolutionary.” The only support before the press conference came from vague anecdotes from correspondent Matt Rivers, who said from Little Havana that “we’ve been seeing people drive past us here..., honking their horns, Cuban flags out the windows,” and some donning Make America Great Again hats. During the speeches, Muir dipped out and tag-teamed with chief legal analyst Dan Abrams to cast doubt on the indictment’s success: Disney's ABC News was, unsurprisingly, very skeptical of the Justice Department's indictment of Raul Castro and five others in the murders of four men from the Brothers to the Rescue in 1996 pic.twitter.com/TjEbvoOUeb — Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) May 20, 2026 There was more vague talk from former longtime Univision correspondent Teresa Rodriguez, who followed on the themes of doubts about its success, but at least went further than Rivers in providing color on the jubilation in Miami: [F]or some of these people that I see in that audience today, some of them are relatives, one of which I spoke to yesterday. And you can see the smiles on their faces. They lost their loved ones, they lost their — their sons. So this is quite a day, a historic day for the Cuban exile community, not just here, but all over the world. After Saturday World News Tonight anchor and weekend Good Morning America co-host Whit Johnson relayed his recent regime-approved trip to Cuba and touted a defiant government as ordinary people suffer (which he did not assign blame), Muir offered the most laughable line of all about ABC having “been committed to covering the Cuban people for a very long time”: ABC’s David Muir, channeling predecessors Peter Jennings and Diane Sawyer with their overt or back-door fawning over the Castro regime in communist Cuba... “ABC News has been committed to covering the Cuban people for a very long time. It was a decade ago. We took World News… pic.twitter.com/KBU9OhqQ5x — Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) May 20, 2026 Once they aired Thomas’s questions to Blanche, Muir signed off with more skepticism, except to vaguely state “things are changing in Cuba.” It would be a vast understatement to say NBC was different. NBC Nightly News anchor Tom Llamas — a Miami native and son of Cuban refugees — immediately declared it “a historic moment” with charges related to the death of four from “the humanitarian group Brothers to the Rescue” and also noted the historic symbolism of the location and day to unseal the indictment. Llamas even stated out loud some “viewers across the country...may be a little confused” about the pomp and circumstance surrounding the roll out, so he delivered a history lesson of sorts about the men lost (some had served in the Vietnam War) and what Brothers to the Rescue accomplished. Correspondent Jesse Kirsch also pointed to how Brothers to the Rescue were “credited with saving upwards of 10,000 lives” and thus were not a “trivial” group but one that had a “real impact at a time when there were so many people in the dangerous, treacherous waters between Cuba and Florida trying to get here.” Tom @LlamasNBC explaining to those unaware of the importance of today’s DOJ indictment of Raul Castro and the Cuban regime’s deadly 1996 shootdown of the Brothers to the Rescue plane... “[F]or our viewers across the country who are watching this, they may be a little confused… pic.twitter.com/IYj0GgxK7a — Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) May 20, 2026 Longtime NBC correspondent Kelly O’Donnell was the lone voice to frame the indictment solely as a Trump-connected project, but still said many believe an indictment “will...write this 30-year wrong” with Secretary of State Marco Rubio having long opposed the Cuban regime as the son of Cuban immigrants. Llamas dug deeper on the history angle with Saturday NBC Nightly News anchor, longtime Telemundo anchor, and fellow Floridian Jose Diaz-Balart. In a fascinating series of explanations, Llamas focused on how the Castros had a spy network inside the United States that aided in the attack while Diaz-Balart detailed how the shootdowns took place (click the X post to read the transcript): WATCH: Important history lesson on the Brothers to the Rescue shootdown from NBC’s Tom @LlamasNBC and @JDBalart.... Llamas: “The charge here may be murder, and it actually may go further than that. It may be premeditated murder. And the reason for that is that we now know that… pic.twitter.com/Xb9Iz0dA2e — Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) May 20, 2026 Following the event, Diaz-Balart relayed the angry reaction from the current Cuban President Miguel Díaz-Canel falsely claiming the Brothers to the Rescue was “a narco-terrorist” group.  Diaz-Balart also praised the indictment as “a speaking indictment” and thus “not just the declaration of the charges, but...a narrative that points very directly to Raúl Castro’s responsibility in any decision that was taken to knock down those planes” and the spy network Llamas referenced earlier. Once O’Donnell said her piece detailing how the indictment provided “a sense of the history of the case” but likely didn’t reveal all the cards and evidence the government has, senior White House correspondent Gabe Gutierrez chimed in with his own views, particularly the stark change from then-President Barack Obama’s chummy 2016 visit to see Raúl Castro (click “expand”): But you remember, Tom, in the Maduro raid, a lot of Maduro security were Cubans. So, there are a lot of questions about how this moves forward. We have reporting over the last several months that President Trump has been growing increasingly frustrated by the Cuban government remaining in power, despite the fuel shortages that have erupted across the island. And if I could point out, Tom, this really points to over the last decade or so, the sharp difference in policy from the Trump administration to the Obama administration before it. I was there in 2014, 2015, with that thaw of diplomatic relations between Cuba and the U.S. And you remember that last speaker — the Florida Attorney General — mentioned that he didn’t name him by name, but President Obama actually attended a baseball game with Raul Castro in Havana, and that was a reference to that. Certainly, Kelly was referring to the political dynamics of all this. But we see just how far the Trump administration has come from the Obama administration before it, making a calculation that it does not want any sort of talking with the Cuban regime. It’s losing patience with it. And the CIA director’s visit there last week, certainly the leaking of pictures from that from that visit amounted to an escalation of the pressure campaign. And you’re right, that is the major question. What happens next? Will the U.S. now somehow go into Cuba and bring Raul Castro back here to face these charges? He turns 95 years old next month. Llamas closed with a poignant five-minute interview of Miriam de la Pena, whose son Mario was one of the four men killed in the shoot down. POWERFUL: NBC’s Tom @LlamasNBC interviews Miriam de la Pena, the mother of Mario de la Pena, one of the Americans killed in the deadly 1996 Brothers to the Rescue shootdown by the Cuban military, about her emotions hearing the U.S. has indicted Raul Castro and five others in her… pic.twitter.com/9V4OuIBOB9 — Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) May 20, 2026 Asked what this moment meant to her, she emphatically told Llamas this is “the first day of us being on the road to find justice” and the first time her son and the three others killed “are looked at as human beings who were murdered under a dictatorship, who extended their tentacles to international waters to kill American citizens. And that cannot be allowed.” “I think it’s the right thing to do...You kill American citizens, the United States needs to defend those citizens. You and I could have been killed. The United States needs to stand up for its citizens. What are we here for? Protect our citizens from murderers...I feel like we’re — we’re human beings. Before, we were ignored. We’re not ignored anymore...There were four innocent men trying to do good for society, and they did not deserve to die that way,” she later added. Llamas closed by asking what she’d say to Raúl Castro. Here was her answer: You are going to get what you deserve. You are being called by what you are today. You are a murderer. Now, you will have, in the United States — your rights will be will not be violated like you violate the rights of the Cuban people. You will have rights in the United States being respected and you will serve a just sentence if you’re found guilty, which I have no doubt that you will be found guilty. “Miriam de la Pena, your husband, I know, is right next to you. We thank you so much for talking to us. We are sorry for what you and your family have struggled through and gone through over these 30 years, and I know today is a monumental day for you. We shall see what shall happen in the days and weeks ahead,” Llamas said in response. To see the relevant transcripts from May 20, click here (for ABC) and here (for NBC).

The liberal crew on CBS Mornings faced the awkward task Wednesday of promoting billionaire media mogul and comedian Byron Allen paying CBS to air archival and supposedly new material from his show Comics Unleashed — which marks 20 years in 2026 — starting Friday in place of the cancelled Late Show with Stephen Colbert. Notably, Allen emphasized the show will not feature politics but instead “appeal to all” and “bring people together using comedy.” “[T]he show is comedians discussing funny things that happen. And are you going to talk politics, or is it all about comedy,” wondered Saturday co-host Adriana Diaz. Allen had an emphatic reply: “No, no, no, no politics. That’s it. You come, you laugh. You know...we’re about to have our 20th anniversary this fall...of Comics Unleashed, 20 years of laughter. We’ve had on a thousand comedians, every — every state, shape, size, you name it.” When Diaz said that means “you want to bring people together,” Allen added: “And I want to bring people together using comedy. I’m going to appeal to all.” Moments earlier, Diaz brought up Allen’s position of taking Colbert’s slot and wondered “how” it “sit[s] with you” after CBS suits pulled the plug: “[Y]ou just mentioned that you’ve written jokes for David Letterman and you know the public criticism from Letterman, from Kimmel, from others about CBS canceling Colbert. How does that sit with you as the person who’s taking on this time slot?” Byron Allen on his deal to air ‘Comics Unleashed’ episodes on CBS after Colbert’s cancellation... “I think it was a very unfortunate event. I love Stephen Colbert. I’m a big fan. Once they made the decision, I said, okay, this isn’t show business. This is business show. You… pic.twitter.com/8QWqi4ukQX — Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) May 20, 2026 Allen insisted he thought “it was a very unfortunate event” because “I love Stephen Colbert” and “I’m a big fan,” but also knew “this isn’t show business,” but “business show” given CBS has been “losing lots of money.” “I said, here’s a solution not to lose lots of money. And I think we can hold on to his audience and hopefully build on it because it is business show not show business. I absolutely love Colbert, and I would do anything — he doesn’t need me. I would do anything to support him,” he added. Diaz also delivered the two teases to this sit-down, describing Comics Unleashed as “taking over The Late Show slot.” The interview began with a clip of Allen from a 1979 appearance on NBC’s The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson as proof of his comedy chops being in addition to his ownership of a media conglomerate. “He made history as the youngest stand-up comedian to appear on the show, and now the media mogul and powerhouse producer is making late-night history again. This Friday, he takes over The Late Show time slot with his comedy talk show, Comics Unleashed. Byron Allen is the show’s host and executive producer,” Diaz began. After Diaz and co-host Nate Burleson joked about how he looked as a teen 47 years ago, Diaz remarked Allen has “said that you have wanted to have a late-night show since that performance that you had on Johnny Carson’s show.” Allen said that he had long watched Carson’s show as a boy in Los Angeles while waiting for his young mother (who had Allen when she was 17) to come home from giving tours at NBC, and in doing so, “I’ve said to myself, what a wonderful way to go through life, making people laugh.” Cued up by fill-in co-host Major Garrett, Allen explained that his official launch date in the Colbert slot is Friday, which will be 34 years to the day Carson left The Tonight Show. Before asking him to denounce the Colbert cancellation, Burleson had him explain how this deal with CBS had come about. Allen stated plainly to the former NFL player that broadcast networks are facing “some financial pressure” because “sports rights are very expensive” and “ad dollars are shifting from linear to digital,” which he’s come to learn as he “invested about a billion dollars buying ABC, NBC, CBS, and Fox affiliates and other assets like The Weather Channel.” He then relayed his negotiations to pay CBS to let him air his two-decade-old show to save $150 million by cancelling both The Late Show with Stephen Colbert and Taylor Tomlinson’s After Midnight (click “expand”): And what I said to the networks, I said, look, you’re spending about $150 million on Colbert and the show after Colbert. So, you’ve decided to cancel both of them. My recommendation is that you don’t spend money on that time period now that you have decided to cancel them because at the end of the day, you’re throwing me an audience at 1:30 in the morning to my CBS affiliates that I own around the country. And I’m running half-hour infomercial spray on hair. You know, abs in 24 hours. I said, save your money, I will put my show Comics Unleashed on. Now, I started Comics Unleashed — well, first of all, they said, this is great...[T]hey said, this is a great idea. You’re going to save us $150 to $170 million. To see the relevant CBS transcript from May 20, click here.

Billionaire Tom Steyer used his money to attack a lone climate researcher. Roger Pielke Jr.’s research on climate and disaster policy wins awards and is cited by the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. “My views are entirely mainstream,” says Pielke. “My work is cited by all three working groups of the IPCC. There’s nothing contrarian.” Both Steyer and Pielke agree that “greenhouse gases warm the climate,” but Pielke’s sin was saying, “it’s not the apocalypse.” Because of that, “the Center for American Progress decided to make me a target,” he says. The center is a lefty group that pushes climate hysteria, running articles claiming, “Climate change is fueling more deadly and destructive floods,” “Extreme weather is only intensifying,” etc. Anyone who disagrees is labeled a “climate denier.” Steyer, now running for governor of California, gave the center enough money to run hit piece after hit piece that describes Pielke’s work as “fantastical falsehoods,” and calls him a “disinformer” who “ignores the data on climate science.” Pielke didn’t know who funded the smears until WikiLeaks revealed an email to Steyer from ThinkProgress’s editor: “Thanks for your support of this work ... it’s fair to say, without Climate Progress, Pielke would still be writing on climate change.” Think about that. “Progressive” activists are proud to stop a researcher from writing about what he knows. Pielke describes his persecution in my new video. It began after Al Gore’s Oscar-winning movie in which Gore claimed that temperature increases create stronger storms. Pielke had the nerve to disagree. “Doesn’t warmer water create bigger storms?” I ask him. “All else equal, yes, it does. But the atmosphere is a complicated place. You have things like windshear, which knocks over storms. ... We haven’t observed changes in the frequency or intensity beyond natural variability.” Pielke’s research acknowledged that there were “increasing impacts of extreme weather, mostly economic costs and loss of life,” but said the impacts were not caused by bigger storms but by “what we build, where we build, how much wealth we have in harm’s way.” “When the climate advocacy movement shifted to extreme weather, I was on the ‘wrong’ side,” he adds. “I had a choice to make. Was I going to call things like I see them, or was I going to succumb to pressure to say things that maybe I didn’t believe?” Pielke called it as he saw it, and paid a price. “There was an enormous effort to try to silence people who had a voice,” says Pielke. Testifying before Congress, Pielke said, “It is misleading ... to claim that disasters associated with hurricanes, tornadoes, floods or drought have increased.” That information is also in the findings of the IPCC. But the Obama White House put out a 3,000-word memo attacking him: “Dr. Pielke’s statements ... are seriously misleading ... not representative of mainstream views.” “It was the sort of thing your crazy uncle might put on Facebook,” laughs Pielke. “I’m the only academic or researcher that any president, including Donald Trump, has ever singled out.” The University of Colorado, where Pielke worked for 24 years, caved in to the pressure. They closed Pielke’s research center, canceled his classes and moved his office into a closet. “What I went through was not what a university is supposed to be for,” says Pielke. The state-funded school, after dumping Pielke’s actual scientific research, now calls “climate change and sustainability ... the central focus of our campus-wide initiatives” and hosts silly things like “climate summits” with panels on “youth climate advocacy.” It’s so dumb. And so wrong. Fortunately, Pielke found another job. Now he researches climate at the American Enterprise Institute, one of many think tanks that does research universities once did. As I write, betting sites have Steyer in second place in California’s governor’s race. Every Tuesday at JohnStossel.com, Stossel posts a new video about the battle between government and freedom. He is the author of “Government Gone Wild: Exposing the Truth Behind the Headlines.”

“None of the above” trounced all other choices when a national poll asked U.S adult citizens to name “the best” late-night comedian on TV - yet another sign of viewers’ growing disdain for the hateful political commentary that has replaced entertainment. In a national survey conducted May 15-18, 2026, The Economist/YouGov asked: “Who do you think is the best late-night comedian on TV?” Fully 38% chose “None of the above” – three times the number who selected any of the top-rated hosts on NBC (Jimmy Fallon), CBS (Stephen Colbert), ABC (Jimmy Kimmel) and Fox News Channel (Greg Gutfeld), all of whom ended up in a virtual tie, garnering 11%-13% of the vote. Comedy Central’s Jon Stewart (8%) and HBO’s John Oliver (5%) drew single-digit percentages of the vote for best late-night comedian.  Former late-night host James Corden was named by 1% of those polled. The popularity of “none” is emblematic of the long-term trend of viewers losing interest in late-night shows. Taken together, late-night talk shows have not been profitable since 2022, with losses steadily increasing each year, according to analysis by LateNighter: “In 2015, the typical 11:30pm talk show brought in well over $200 million in revenue and made a healthy profit. By 2023, the same show was underwater, and by 2025, losses are well into the tens of millions of dollars—even with cost controls that have been put into place by most of the major shows in recent years.” “As for how we got here, the story begins and ends with the decline in linear ratings,” LateNighter explained, citing Nielsen Live+7 data: “CBS’s The Late Show, NBC’s The Tonight Show, and ABC’s Jimmy Kimmel Live!—have seen declines of 70–80% in the key 18–49 demographic since 2015. That year marked the beginning of a new era: Colbert took over from David Letterman, Fallon had just succeeded Jay Leno, and Kimmel had moved up to 11:35pm.” Across all demographics, Forbes reports that NBC has been the biggest loser of broadcast network late-night audiences over the last decade since the 2015-2016 season, Jimmy Fallon’s average “Tonight Show” audience has fallen 64% from 3.6 million viewers to 1.3 million in 2025. In 2016, Republican President Donald Trump began his first term in office, prompting many liberal late-night hosts to abandon actual comedy for increasingly hate-filled political attacks masquerading as humor, potentially alienating about half of the nation’s late-night viewers. Kimmel, for example, was suspended last September for making false and malicious comments on his show regarding the assassination of conservative Charlie Kirk. Even before he was pulled, about three-fourths of adults weren’t watching “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” At the time, less than half (43%) of adults said they had a “favorable opinion” of Kimmel, including a minority (45%) of Independents and just 12% of Republicans. Among Democrats, however, 76% viewed Kimmel favorably. What’s more, Kimmel’s ratings had fallen in each of the past 12 years. Meanwhile, CBS has announced that Colbert’s show is canceled as of May 21 of this year, which the network says is “due to purely a financial decision against a challenging backdrop in late night.” “The timing, of course, is impossible to ignore. Colbert has been a known thorn in the side of Donald Trump,” LateNighter notes. Results reported this week by The Economist/YouGov reveal notable difference in late-night host preferences based on age, race and party identification. Younger adults were the most likely to say “None of the above,” with nearly half (46%) of those 18-29 making this choice, along with 42% of the advertiser-coveted 30-44 cohort.  In contrast, roughly a third of those 45-64 (34%) and 65+ (31%) didn’t name a host, opting instead for “none.” Greg Gutfeld, host of Fox News Channel’s late-night show on cable, was the most-popular late-night comedian among White adults (17%), while Kimmel was most-often selected as the best by both Blacks (27%) and Hispanics (17%). By party, just 20% of Democrats said “none,” compared to half (49%) of Republicans and 40% of Independents. Colbert (23%) and Kimmel (22%) were rated the best among Democrats, while Gutfeld topped all other hosts with Republicans (30%).

After calling for an armed “rebellion” against President Trump earlier in the week, ABC News co-host Sunny Hostin boasted about Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) plan to have black college athletes boycott their scholarships to southern schools. The View co-host touted how it would cause “economic damage and economic harm” to the south. Meanwhile, faux conservative Alyssa Farah Griffin called it “a very good idea” and noted, “the economy would crumble.” All as revenge for redistricting. After playing a soundbite of Jeffries announcing his plan, moderator Whoopi Goldberg didn’t seem to be a big fan of it. She wondered if it was putting to much of a burden on students who were trying to better their lives: GOLDBERG: So this could have a huge impact on college sports programs in the south. But is it putting a little too much burden on the students, because if you are someone who has just, you know, you getting to go to college and this is the school that's said ‘yes’ to you -- BEHAR: On scholarship, right? GOLDBERG: Maybe on a scholarship. Hostin was fine with the Jeffries’ idea because “you know, athletes have been involved in protests and politics for a long time.” She acknowledged that there was a lot on the line for the students because they “stand to get a free education, they stand to make money because of the NIL now.” Yet still, she argued that it would be better for them to give that up because of the damage and harm it would cause to red states.   Sunny Hostin boasts about the "economic damage and economic harm" Hakeem Jeffries wants to do to the south with his plan to have black students boycott their university athletic scholarships. Alyssa Farah Griffin calls it "a very good idea" because "the economy would crumble":… pic.twitter.com/KsW7ifDpvU — Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) May 20, 2026   “I think it's economic damage and economic harm has longtime been a very effective tool in the civil rights movement,” she proclaimed. Seemingly to encourage young athletes to take part in the boycott, Hostin suggested that the athletes were “the top of the top and so they're going to have a lot of other choices.” She also told them to think of themselves as Kylin Hill of Ole Miss: And I would suggest that if you think about Ole Miss, there was -- I think a running back, his name is, yeah, it was a running back. His name was Kylin Hill. He played at Ole Miss. You know, Ole Miss brings in a lot of money. He vowed not to play unless the state changed the confederate flag. The Confederate flag came down months later. Because college sports brings in so much money. Neither of Hostin’s two children were attending college on an athletics scholarship. “In theory, I think it's a very good idea! Let’s talk macro! If all black Americans boycotted any industry, it would -- the economy would crumble,” touted Farah Griffin in response, before agreeing with Goldberg: “but it's putting, in my mind, too much onus on the young people who did not create the problem that we’re in.” For her part, co-host Joy Behar ridiculously compared the situation to the Vietnam War. “Well, like teenagers, they're teenagers and they're going to have to give up a lot. The Vietnam War was basically halted by teenagers,” she suggested. Adding: “So, I'm not saying it's a great idea or it's not a great idea, I'm just pointing out it is young people who change the world.” So just like with Vietnam, Behar and Hostin would have other peoples’ teenagers make the sacrifice for their political cause. Maybe they should change the lyrics of Fortunate Son to “It ain't me, it ain't me. I ain't no View host's son, son.” The transcript is below. Click "expand" to read: ABC’s The View May 20, 2026 11:14:46 a.m. Eastern (…) WHOOPI GOLDBERG: So this could have a huge impact on college sports programs in the south. But is it putting a little too much burden on the students, because if you are someone who has just, you know, you getting to go to college and this is the school that's said ‘yes’ to you -- BEHAR: On scholarship, right? GOLDBERG: Maybe on a scholarship. SUNNY HOSTIN: Also there is money for athletes - for athletes now with the NIL BEHAR: What do you think? You think it’s too much or a burden on them? GOLDBERG: You know, I think it's really going to become a case-by-case basis because I don't know how many schools we're talking about. I don't know how many athletes we're talking about and I don't know this is the best way. It can be part of a bigger picture but I don't know if this is the only way to go. HOSTIN: Well, I agree with you on that I think there has to be strategy. I mean, you know, athletes have been involved in protests and politics for a long time. GOLDBERG: Yeah. HOSTIN: Remember the Olympics and you had [raises fist in the air] John Carlos and you had Muhammad Ali but these were athletes that were established already. These college athletes stand to get a free education, they stand to make money because of the NIL now, so I think it is asking a lot. But, I think it's economic damage and economic harm has longtime been a very effective tool in the civil rights movement. BEHAR: Resistance has a price. Let me give you some history. GOLDBERG: Yes, do. BEHAR: Well, like teenagers, they're teenagers and they're going to have to give up a lot. The Vietnam War was basically halted by teenagers. HOSTIN: Correct. BEHAR: Because it was 17 and 18-year-old kids who were going to go and fight this crazy war that they were doing. So, I'm not saying it's a great idea or it's not a great idea, I'm just pointing out it is young people who change the world. HOSTIN: If there's structure though don't you think this could possibly work? Because we're talking about just the state schools, Whoopi, we’re not talking about the SEC. The conference. FARAH GRIFFIN: Oh, that’s an important distinction. GOLDBERG: That's important to know. HOSTIN: So, we're talking about 13 schools. These kids are the top of the top and so they're going to have a lot of other choices. And I would suggest that if you think about Ole Miss, there was -- I think a running back, his name is, yeah, it was a running back. His name was Kylin Hill. He played at Ole Miss. You know, Ole Miss brings in a lot of money. He vowed not to play unless the state changed the confederate flag. The Confederate flag came down months later. Because college sports brings in so much money. FARAH GRIFFIN: In theory, I think it's a very good idea! Let’s talk macro! If all black Americans boycotted any industry, it would -- the economy would crumble. Arts, music, doctors, everything. Of course, that is a powerful way to protest but it's putting, in my mind, too much onus on the young people who did not create the problem that we’re in. (…)