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The View Continues to Smear Isabel Brown for Encouraging Marriage, Kids
The View has refused to have conservative activist Isabel Brown on the show after they smeared her earlier in the week for encouraging women to get married and have kids, but they still had her name in their mouths. On Wednesday’s episode of their Behind the Table podcast, Sara Haines said Brown, through "willful or ignorance," "misconstrued" The View's attacks on her. She went on to falsely claim Brown had no empathy for women who couldn't get pregnant or find a husband even if they really wanted to.
Haines and executive producer Brian Teta jumped right into the controversy they stirred up at the top of the podcast by conceding a little ground to Brown on the fact that no parent was ever truly ready to have a child:
HAINES: The main gist of her message was, you know, if you have - if you know people or you know, women your life or kids, you know, tell them to have babies, even -
TETA: If they're not ready.
HAINES: Even before they can afford them and even when they're not ready for them. I actually kind of understood what she was trying to say with the not ready for them. I don't think you're ever really ready for them.
TETA: Correct.
“But my issue was with the greater message,” Haines followed up. “I love babies. I love being married. I love all those things. But there is so much pressure in this world on women to define themselves by if they're married, and two, if they have babies.”
The View has refused to have @theisabelb on the show after they smeared her, but they still have her name in their mouths.
On their Behind the Table podcast, Sara Haines says Isabel Brown through "willful or ignorance" "misconstrued" The View's attack on her. She went on to… pic.twitter.com/YvZMaOZOb4
— Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) April 3, 2026
Haines then proceeded to get a little ageist by knocking Brown for being Gen Z and then suggesting she had more empathy: “She's young. So I don't know. Mine comes from a place of empathy. My take comes from a place of empathy and life lived. I am older than her.”
At one point, Haines echoed her argument on the show proper that had a tinge of eugenics in it:
We ask women all the time about marriage and kids and that is seems to be all their worth. We're living on a planet that has over 8 billion people. There was a time where we needed people to procreate and make tons of babies. We have plenty of babies.
Haines was apparently aware of Brown’s X posts reacting to The View’s attacks on her. But instead of inviting her on to have a two-sided discussion, they preferred Haines make a strawman out of Brown’s rebuttals. She proceeded to falsely suggest Brown’s position was that even if a woman tried to get married/have kids and couldn’t, they were a lesser being for it:
HAINES: She was talking about it happening during Holy Week and how anti-Christian. And one, I won't do that to someone because if you're really faithful and spiritual, you know that that's not my place to judge her on that. So, I was surprised that she would. But, I definitely think she misconstrued in whether that was willful or ignorance.
TETA: Right.
HAINES: She's missing my whole point, which is I know too many women that, for whatever reason, aren't married, don't have kids, and they matter. And they should be involved in government and policies and not everything revolves around whether a woman has a partner and whether a woman has a child.
I’d like to thank the women of @TheView for showing their truest, darkest colors today: they’re literally shrieking like demons at the thought of encouraging young women to have children.
PS - "stupidest" isn't a real word. pic.twitter.com/H7s3baQl95
— Isabel Brown (@theisabelb) March 30, 2026
“Sometimes it's a full blown choice and sometimes it's just the way life turned out. And I would never want to dim someone's light and life by saying they matter less because of that,” Haines declared before they hypocritically pivoted to talking about co-host Alyssa Farah Griffin’s new baby boy.
The View refused to host Brown because they openly refuse to have a strong committed conservative woman on the program, especially after Meghan McCain left. On a previous episode of their podcast, they admitted they didn’t want to have anyone on the show who could generate viral clips embarrassing their cast.
Further, their refusal to speak to Brown was hypocritical because, on yet another podcast episode, they defended their pickiness with inviting conservatives by saying they only wanted to talk to the people they discussed on the show.
In one of her recent podcast episodes reviewing the fall out of The View’s smears, Brown said she reached out to go on the show, but their producers said they were booked up for weeks. They lied to her.
According to 1Iota, the website to formally request tickets to see The View, as of the publication of this piece, there were no guests booked for April 27 and four different days with only one guest booked (they have had upwards of 3-4 during a single show). When NewsBusters pointed this out to Teta on X, he untagged himself from the post.
Hey @Brianteta, you guys have no guests slated for April 27. How about you guys have Isabel on to defend herself? You said on your podcast you guys only want to talk with the conservative figures the cast talk about during the Hot Topics segment. Why not now? https://t.co/h5bXkiTEty pic.twitter.com/K5iDmMEiXM
— Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) April 3, 2026
The transcript is below. Click "expand" to read:
ABC’s Behind the Table
April 1, 2026
00:18
BRIAN TETA: All right, let's dive right in with some hot topics. It's been an interesting week, I think. And on Monday, we had a conversation about something that happened at CPAC with a conservative influencer Isabel Brown. Not someone I was familiar with until seeing this video, but she had some kind of interesting things to say about motherhood in America in 2026. Tell me what you remember about this.
SARA HAINES: The main gist of her message was, you know, if you have - if you know people or you know, women your life or kids, you know, tell them to have babies, even -
TETA: If they're not ready.
HAINES: Even before they can afford them and even when they're not ready for them.
I actually kind of understood what she was trying to say with the not ready for them. I don't think you're ever really ready for them.
TETA: Correct.
HAINES: And I think she was also saying a lot of people say, I don't know if I can afford it. She was kind of making a catchy phrase, but my issue was with the greater message. I love babies. I love being married. I love all those things. But there is so much pressure in this world on women to define themselves by if they're married, and two, if they have babies.
That is - and I would encourage - She's young. So I don't know. Mine comes from a place of empathy. My take comes from a place of empathy and life lived. I am older than her.
TETA: Um hm.
HAINES: Knowing so many women, having been single, like dating for years and not knowing if I was going to find my person to get married, they make it sound like this easy choice. Get married, have kids. There are so many amazing women I know that aren't meeting people. It's really hard to that you could get into the reasons why that's the case, but they're open to finding people and they're not.
Having babies. Whole different can of worms. So many people I know, almost every person I know actually has struggled for some reason having babies, whether it was fertility. I'm friends with a lot of gay couples that have had to fight nontraditional, surrogates, all these things.
We ask women all the time about marriage and kids and that is seems to be all their worth. We're living on a planet that has over 8 billion people. There was a time where we needed people to procreate and make tons of babies. We have plenty of babies.
And if the point of feminism and women being equal was women having the choice, whether it was working in the home, or staying at home, or - And I don't even want to say staying at home because it's working in the home, working in the home, working out of the home, being married, not being married, having kids, not having kids. The beauty of progress and time is that we don't have to put that on people's shoulders. And yet I wouldn't change anything I've done.
And what I'm saying is not to buck the trend, don't do it. It's more, you do what you can and what you want because you have a life beyond that.
TETA: Well, it's not a surprising thing because this often happens, but conservative influencers like Isabel and others have kind of misconstrued what you guys were saying on the show.
HAINES: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
TETA: What the point of it is.
HAINES: I don't - I refuse to read it because right when I saw some of the headlines, I thought here we go again. You know.
TETA: Yeah.
HAINES: She was talking about it happening during Holy Week and how anti-Christian. And one, I won't do that to someone because if you're really faithful and spiritual, you know that that's not my place to judge her on that. So, I was surprised that she would. But, I definitely think she misconstrued in whether that was willful or ignorance.
TETA: Right.
HAINES: She's missing my whole point, which is I know too many women that, for whatever reason, aren't married, don't have kids, and they matter. And they should be involved in government and policies and not everything revolves around whether a woman has a partner and whether a woman has a child.
And it's because I see those people and sometimes that's a painful place to be. Sometimes it's a full blown choice and sometimes it's just the way life turned out. And I would never want to dim someone's light and life by saying they matter less because of that.
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