On Friday's The 11th Hour on MS NOW, contributor Jason Johnson seemed visibly happy when he recounted that immigration enforcement agents in Charlotte, North Carolina, have had their tires slashed and were chased out of buildings by anti-ICE activists. Additionally, during a discussion of the possibility that former President Bill Clinton might be hurt by release of the Jeffrey Epstein files, Johnson laughably claimed that Democrats have never had a problem with convicting fellow Democrats even though every Senate Democrat voted against convicting President Clinton in 1999. Near the end of the show as each panel member gave a pick for "MVP of the Week," he chose the liberal students in Charlotte who walked out of their classes to protest the push by DHS to arrest illegal immigrants in the area. He recalled: So Charlotte's Web is basically ICE Department of Homeland Security's plan to arrest thousands of supposedly undocumented people in Charlotte. It has terrorized the city -- it has shut down traffic. You have schools where 30, 40 percent of the kids are not showing up. And these young people, on their own -- without politicians, without mom, without mom and dad -- said, "We're standing against this -- we want our country to be better." And thousands of them walked out of their schools in protest to say, "We don't want ICE here." Then, even though he claimed that he does not recommend the harassment of federal agents, Johnson couldn't help smiling as he informed viewers of agents being targeted by anti-ICE activists: In addition to the fact -- and I won't say I'm suggesting this behavior -- but ICE agents have found that their tires are slashed. [It sounds like one of the male panel members laughs in the background.] They have found that they have been chased ... Yes, they have been chased out of buildings -- chased out of restaurants. After Ruhle injected, "But that's dangerous behavior," Johnson added: "It is dangerous behavior, but it is a demonstration that the American public, when they're not being listened to, these are the options that they'll take. I hope this administration listens and pulls back these ICE raids." Then, even though a Border Patrol agent was recently injured in Charlotte during a deliberate van attack, Ruhle only expressed concern for anti-ICE protesters: "And I hope nothing violent happens -- happens to any of these students." Earlier in the show, there was also a noteworthy conversation about whether Democrats are concerned about implicating former President Bill Clinton in their push to release the Epstein files, leading Johnson to demonstrate amnesia over Democrats defending their own Presidents accused of sexual misconduct. The liberal MSNBC contributor asserted: Epstein has never been about Democrats because Democrats have never had a problem, like you said, with convicting their own people. This is an internal circular firing squad amongst MAGA. It is -- it is MAGA people who are upset -- it's MAGA people who are concerned. Because if you're a Democrat, you haven't voted for Trump in any of the last 16 years worth of elections. It was not mentioned that Democrats do, in fact, have an established record of defending Democrat Presidents over such issues. Not only was President Clinton defended over a variety of accusations in the 1990s, but sexual assault against President Joe Biden were also ignored in 2020. Since Clinton has not been President in decades, it is no longer in the interests of Democrats to shield him if they can undermine a Republican who still is President. Transcripts follow: MS NOW's The 11th Hour November 21, 2025 11:19 p.m. Eastern JASON JOHNSON, MS NOW CONTRIBUTOR: ... they desperately need to change the story to being about Democrats. Like if you remember, this whole thing -- the whole, "We're going to release the Epstein files," by Trump when he was running for President was because everybody assumed that it was going to be Bill Clinton who got exposed, right? That's what this -- that's what the MAGA -- that's what the QAnon Pizzagate people believe. RUHLE: But Democrats are willing to say, "Let Bill Clinton get exposed -- let anybody get exposed -- it's about the victim." JOHNSON: But, see, that's the thing. Epstein has never been about Democrats because Democrats have never had a problem, like you said, with convicting their own people. This is an internal circular firing squad amongst MAGA. It is -- it is MAGA people who are upset -- it's MAGA people who are concerned. Because if you're a Democrat, you haven't voted for Trump in any of the last 16 years worth of elections. It is baked into the cake that you think he is a sexual abuser -- whether it's, whether it's grabbing women by their body parts, whether it's doing things to his first wife, whether it's going into dressing rooms. I mean, you already think that's who Donald Trump is. This is about people who are true believers who are disappointed. And they are desperate to turn it into a Democrat problem rather than Ghislaine Maxwell or anybody else. (...) 11:52 p.m. Eastern JASON JOHNSON, MS NOW CONTRIBUTOR: My "MVP of the Week" is all of the students who walked out in Charlotte this week in protest of ICE raids. STEPHANIE RUHLE: Remind us because we didn't talk about it. JOHNSON: So Charlotte's Web is basically ICE Department of Homeland Security's plan to arrest thousands of supposedly undocumented people in Charlotte. It has terrorized the city -- it has shut down traffic. You have schools where 30, 40 percent of the kids are not showing up. And these young people, on their own -- without politicians, without mom, without mom and dad -- said, "We're standing against this -- we want our country to be better." And thousands of them walked out of their schools in protest to say, "We don't want ICE here." In addition to the fact -- and I won't say I'm suggesting this behavior -- but ICE agents have found that their tires are slashed. (It sounds like one of the male panel members laughs in the background.) They have found that they have been chased --  RUHLE: Stop it. JOHNSON: Yes, they have been chased out of buildings -- chased out of restaurants. RUHLE: But that's dangerous behavior. JOHNSON: It is dangerous behavior, but it is a demonstration that the American public, when they're not being listened to, these are the options that they'll take. I hope this administration listens and pulls back these ICE raids. RUHLE: And I hope nothing violent happens -- happens to any of these students.