Here in Birmingham, Alabama, I often teach about the civil rights movement as the most effective faith-based movement for social change in American history. We have a bitter heritage of violent segregation. But the same city produced many heroes of the struggle, the ordinary men and women (and especially children) who stared down the police dogs and fire hoses in their march for freedom. Justin Giboney honors such heroes as pastor Fred Shuttlesworth and commends their example for today in an informative, provocative book, Don’t Let Nobody Turn You Around: How the Black Church’s Public Witness Leads Us Out of the Culture War (IVP). Justin is the cofounder and president of the AND Campaign. The endorsement of this book by Bob Roberts calls Justin a “strange mix of Tim Keller and Martin Luther King Jr. wrapped up in his own personality and voice.” High praise! I’m grateful he joined me on this episode of Gospelbound. In This Episode 00:00 – Jesus, truth, and critiquing our own side 00:33 – Birmingham, civil rights, and faith-based social change 01:00 – Introducing Don’t Let Nobody Turn You Around 01:40 – The burden behind writing the book 03:07 – Family history and the black church tradition 04:05 – Why Fred Shuttlesworth matters 05:14 – “Biblicist and actionist”: faith and public courage 06:05 – Nonviolence, moral discipline, and leadership 07:11 – Shuttlesworth and King: contrasts and complements 09:23 – Why moral progress isn’t inevitable 12:10 – Moral imagination and Christian hope 15:57 – What is the culture war? 18:44 – Humility, self-critique, and redeemable opponents 21:29 – Justice, moral order, and refusing false binaries 22:51 – King, the late 1960s, and the cost of a “third way” 25:26 – Militancy, frustration, and historical context 28:01 – Why Christians can’t abandon character 31:12 – Tyranny, violence, and ending debate by force 33:18 – Advice for young activists 35:19 – Frederick Douglass and critiquing your own movement 38:37 – Accountability, power, and political humility 43:36 – Christian nationalism and historical amnesia 47:24 – Final encouragement: civility, faithfulness, and hope Resource Mentioned: Don’t Let Nobody Turn You Around: How the Black Church’s Public Witness Leads Us out of the Culture War by Justin Giboney SIGN UP for my newsletter, Unseen Things. Help The Gospel Coalition renew and unify the contemporary church in the ancient gospel: Donate today. Don’t miss an episode of Gospelbound with Collin Hansen: Apple Podcasts Spotify YouTube TGC Updates