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The Most Interesting Moments from the Trump-Pavlich Interview
Before flying out to Davos, President Donald Trump sat down with Katie Pavlich for an extensive interview on her new and eponymous program. The interview was significant, newsworthy, and a refreshing departure from the usual Elitist Media fare.
Here are some of the most notable moments:
The rapid-fire interview went straight to business and opened with a question on the day’s biggest story: the anti-ICE protests in Minnesota that escalated to a church incursion and subsequent DoJ civil rights investigation.
First question in the Pavlich-Trump interview is on Minnesota: Trump denounces the professional protesters, calls Don Lemon a "loser" pic.twitter.com/RDYLqRpluc
— Jorge Bonilla (@BonillaJL) January 21, 2026
KATIE PAVLICH: Thank you, Mr. President for having us here at The White House to mark the one-year anniversary to your second term in The White House. Minnesota continues to be Ground Zero for the left's war against your deportation efforts. Just today you saw the Department of Justice issue a number of subpoenas against Democratic officials there- Governor Tim Walz, the mayor of Minneapolis and the Attorney General, Keith Ellison. What is the status of Minneapolis and what is your administration doing to ensure that your deportation efforts can continue in that city and around the country?
DONALD TRUMP: I think you have two problems: number one, you have $19 billion dollars worth of stolen money, at .I think the number's going to be much higher, and you have that in California, you have it in other states also, I believe, when you- when you go through it. So that's a big problem. And then you have the agitators, anarchists. You know, I watched sort of everything. I see it all. And I see people screaming, “shame, shame”. You know, this is not people that are, like, living in Minnes- these are professional paid people. They’re like actors. I mean, I watched the guy last night in the church. He was- and not just Don Lemon, Don Lemon’s a loser.
But what you got last night in the church- this guy's a professional guy and he actually admits to it. He gets paid a lot of money to go and cause trouble. And you see that. But they don't see is that ICEgets rid of murders, drug dealers, Tren de Aragua. I mean, the worst gang in the world anywhere in the world- MS-13, Tren de... But these are the worst gangs and they get rid of them. They take them out- and I say, something's wrong when a place like Minnesota, which is a good place, it’s got a horrible governor. It’s got horrible people- this Ilhan Omar is horrible.
I mean, she comes from a country that doesn't even have a government, they have nothing. And she comes here and she lectures us on the Constitution. She's got constitutional rights. She's just horrible. Somebody said she's worth 30 million dollars. Therefore, she's obviously a very dishonest person. And she should be looked at for that, so you have a couple of things. You have the money thing and then you have the- all of the fake nonsense going on and- screaming. The people, they’re so professional. They hold their cameras up high and it's a terrible thing going on in Minnesota.
Pavlich quickly moves to a potential invocation of the Insurrection Act as a result of the unrest in Minnesota. Trump broke news by assessing that an invocation of the Insurrection act is not yet necessary.
Trump, on the Insurrection Act: “I don’t think it is yet. It might be at some point. It is actually very common—you know, with me they’ll make it like a big deal—but, it’s been used by over 40 percent of the presidents during their term. It's something I would have no problem… pic.twitter.com/Co8XMyzaW1
— Jorge Bonilla (@BonillaJL) January 21, 2026
PAVLICH: Well, you've threatened to invoke the Insurrection Act if the governor did not get things under control, they clearly don't have things under control and don't seem to want to get them under control yet. These activists storming churches now. They're still impeding these investigations of child sex offenders, murders. At a press under stay at The White House you held up a number of photos of the people that ICE has been supporting. The Insurrection Act would allow you- requires, essentially, that if federal law cannot be enforced, that you can invoke and it would allow it to be enforced. So where are you with that threat? Do you still think it's necessary?
TRUMP:I don't think it is yet, it might be at some point. It is actually very common, you know, with me, they'll make it like a big deal, but, uh, it's been used by over 40% of the presidents during their term. Uh, it's something I would have no problem doing if I think we needed it. We have great people in ICE, uh, they're strong people, they're smart people. And I don't think it's necessary yet, but I, you know, I see they're building up like, "Oh, if he ever did that." Uh, over 40% of the presidents used it. Some presidents used it actually many times. And it does make life a lot easier. Uh, you don't go through the court system, you don't, you know, it's just a much easier thing to do. But I don't think we need it, uh, at this point, and hopefully we won't need it. But I would, I would not have any problem with invoking it if we needed it.
The conversation continued along that immigration track before moving to Greenland. Here, Trump explains his national security rationale behind the emphasis on Greenland.
Trump on the Greenland imperative: its location is critical to national security and the Golden Dome. pic.twitter.com/gZLrjDed0o
— Jorge Bonilla (@BonillaJL) January 21, 2026
PAVLICH: You're on your way to Davos this week.
TRUMP: Right.
PAVLICH: And there's a lot of talk about Greenland, of course. Uh, European leaders are not so happy about your increased pressure to acquire Greenland. For the average American who maybe doesn't understand why the United States is pursuing this piece of property --
TRUMP: Right.
PAVLICH: -- what, what do you say to them? Why do we need Greenland?
TRUMP: It's located in such a place that is literally so important for national security. When you come to Russia, when you come to China, a lot of Chinese boats, a lot of, uh, Russian, you know, ships, military ships, uh, it's, uh, in a location that is very important for our national security and also for the international security of the world, literally.
It's a very big piece of land. It's really cold, got a lot of ice on it, so it's not like we're gonna put, build a nice real estate development or anything.
PAVLICH: No golf course on Greenland?
TRUMP: Well, I don't see a golf course. You'd have to be very, you'd have to wear a lot of very heavy clothes. Like we're not gonna set any records with golf. But I will tell you that it's very important, uh, to the United States. And, uh, as an example, we're building the Golden Dome, which we're gonna have a dome over the country. If somebody wants to shoot missiles, it'll not come out of the air like match decks. It'll, it'll go very nicely. It's amazing. You know, Ronald Reagan wanted this many, many years ago. He was ahead of his time, but the problem is you didn't have equipment that worked. Today, the equipment is unbelievable. You've seen it. I mean, we can knock a missile coming at thousands of miles an hour. It's like, and you get literally 100% of them. The technology is so good. So we're building a Golden Dome and having Greenland makes it a much more effective Golden Dome.
PAVLICH: So you're saying Greenland is essential for the security of the United States in the free Western world --
TRUMP: Correct.
PAVLICH: -- for the sake of missile defense?
TRUMP: That is correct.
PAVLICH: And that's why we need Greenland.
TRUMP: That is correct. And even beyond missile defense, but it is so important for the Golden Dome. It's so important for just national and actually international security.
Moving to domestic policy, Pavlich asks Trump about domestic policy goals- Trump calls on Congress to codify his executive orders:
Trump calls on Congress to codify his executive orders ahead of the midterm pic.twitter.com/BMabgSHrbs
— Jorge Bonilla (@BonillaJL) January 21, 2026
PAVLICH: So, looking back here at home domestically, last year you worked with Congress very closely, Republicans in charge of both the House and the Senate, and of course you're in the White House and you worked with them on the Big Beautiful Bill. For 2026, especially in a midterm election year, what is your goal for Congress in terms of getting your agenda through? What, what is on the agenda? What expectations do you have for, for Congress?
TRUMP: Well, one of the things I'd like to do, you know, we pass so many executive orders. I have great executive orders that are really common sense and good and have, I mean, like water coming out of a sink, uh, the water wouldn't come out. They had all sorts of ridiculous restrictions. I took all of that off. So, I pass so many different things like that and much more important things, but like that. They are, they are important, they're quality of life. And I'd like to have all of that confirmed by Congress if we can. And we've done a lot of it. We've done probably 35, 40%. I'd like to get them all, uh, confirmed, every one of them.
PAVLICH: So, you want your executive orders codified in law, so to speak?
TRUMP: Uh, ideally we get them codified and we get them codified soon, yes.
This kicked off a segment on domestic economics where Trump asserted that tariffs could replace the income tax, expects a boom in 2026, and stresses the need to expand the electrical grid in order to sustain AI. Shifting to foreign policy, Pavlich asked about the sonic weapon deployed during the raid to capture Nicolas Maduro. Trump acknowledged the existence of such weapons.
Trump demurs when asked about the sonic weapon deployed during the Maduro raid: "We have weapons that nobody knows about. And I say it's probably good not to talk about it but we have some amazing weapons. That was an amazing attack." Trump cites the Maduro regime as a root cause… pic.twitter.com/uBCX6JdXcQ
— Jorge Bonilla (@BonillaJL) January 21, 2026
PAVLICH: Speaking of Venezuela, there was a, a weapon used, a sonic weapon that took out many of the Cuban bodyguards that were used to, to
TRUMP: Yeah.
PAVLICH: -- defend Maduro. Uh, lots of people saw the details about that weapon and were concerned. Is that something that Americans should be afraid of, something the United States is combating?
TRUMP: Well, yeah. It's something I don't wanna, nobody else has it. We have weapons that nobody knows about. And I say it's probably good not to talk about it, but we have some amazing weapons. That was an amazing attack. Don't forget, that house was in the middle of a fort, an army base, a big one. A lot of soldiers, and they came in and they did their job. We had, we lost nobody.
PAVLICH: Uh, do you feel like, uh, Maduro's gonna make some kind of deal when it comes to the charges he's up against to give you intelligence about what the Russians and Iranians are doing in his country?
TRUMP: Well, I'm leaving, uh, that up to the Department of Justice. We'll see how it all goes. But, uh, look, he killed a lot of people. I mean, you look at what happened with the drugs. And he also was responsible more than any other country for emptying his jails, his mental institutions. Just emptied them out and brought him into the United States. And that's what we're talking when we talk about Minnesota, when we talk about all this crime stuff. We're getting rid of, Biden left us a mess. We're getting rid of the mess. He had open borders. He had an open border policy. So Maduro came in and let all of his criminals into the United States because of Biden's open border. They didn't even question. They'd look at some people, they'd say, "They're criminals. I don't want to get into it. " They'd say, "They're criminals." And it's, "Come on in."
And what we're doing is getting them out. And, and believe me, it takes a big part of my time. This was a self-imposed error. This was just a terrible, what they did to this country can never be forgotten. He was the worst president. And what Biden did, and, you know, it's the people that, that use the autopen, you can call it a lot of different things, but he was surrounded by people, the beautiful resolute desk in the Oval Office, which I'll show you right after this.
PAVLICH: Oh, fantastic.
TRUMP: But, uh, it's beautiful, but it was surrounded by radical left lunatics. And what they did to this country can never be forgotten. They let in millions of, of criminal, you know, you have probably 25 million people that were let into this country, and no checking, no vetting, no anything. They come, many of them came from prisons. Many of them came from mental institutions --
PAVLICH: Yeah.
TRUMP: -- gang members, drug dealers. They just let 'em into our country --
PAVLICH: Yeah.
TRUMP: -- and I've got to get 'em out.
Pavlich then asks Trump about Iran issuing fresh assassination threats, which provides a notable quote:
Trump, on retaliation against an Iranian assassination attempt: Well, they shouldn't be doing it, but I've left notification. Anything ever happens, we're going to blow the—the whole country is going to get blown up. So, we've, you know, originally, Biden should have said… pic.twitter.com/OLASDoNGwv
— Jorge Bonilla (@BonillaJL) January 21, 2026
PAVLICH: Iran. Uh, you mentioned in the press conference today that you did in the briefing room with reporters that they canceled or at least put on hold hundreds of hangings that were scheduled.
TRUMP: Yeah.
PAVLICH: However, there are reports that they are still burning thousands of protestors alive. They also issued an assassination threat against you over the weekend. I know that you can't talk about what's on the table, but what is your response to Iran's, uh, leadership in the regime continuing to taunt you, threaten you, especially given over the weekend you said it's time for new leadership in Iran.
TRUMP: Well, they shouldn't be doing it, but I've left notification, anything ever happens, we're gonna blow the hell, the whole country's gonna get blown up. So w- -- we've, you know, originally, uh, Biden should've said something, you know, when they made a statement. We always said, "Why isn't Biden saying anything?" Because he didn't. But a president has to defend a president, like if I were here and they were making that threat to somebody, even, not even a president, but somebody, like they did with me, uh, I would absolutely hit them so hard. But I have very firm instructions, anything happens, they're gonna wipe 'em off the face of this earth.
Pavlich asked the legacy question, with Trump saying he’d like to be remembered as a great president.
Trump on his legacy: I would love my legacy to be that I was a great president. pic.twitter.com/PosrXnnImz
— Jorge Bonilla (@BonillaJL) January 21, 2026
PAVLICH: What do you want your legacy to be that now that you have three le- -- years left in your term? If you can pick one.
TRUMP: I would love my legacy to be that I was a great president, and a great president covers a lot of territory. Uh, we were safe, we were prosperous, we were doing well, we were happy as a country. Uh, I'd like to be known as a great president. A great president takes it all in.
Towards the end of the interview, Trump joked that the Democrats will impeach him for having a good economy, should they retake the House. The interview ended with Trump’s thoughts on the dangers of the presidency, then proceeded to a panel segment that was cut short due to Air Force One’s late emergency landing due to electrical issues.
The interview proved to be a refreshing change of pace from the usual Elitist Media slop. Pavlich appears not to be consumed with the narcissist impulse to be the story. This allowed Pavlich to be efficient with her time, engage Trump on a wide array of matters, and emerge with a very newsworthy interview. A home run all around.