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Meet The People Who Keep “Escaping Conspiracy Theories”
It’s time to expose some Conspiracy Theories!
Only not in the way the Legacy Media wants to do it….
No‚ we’re going to expose the Conspiracy Theories spewed by the Legacy Media themselves.
Let me explain…
A reader (thank you Wayne) sent me a link to this article:
Here’s a portion of the beginning part of that article from Yahoo/AP:
At first his stories seemed harmless. Tales about secret organizations plotting to take over the world‚ about the good guys working to save it‚ and about the proof that‚ if you knew where to look‚ was hiding in plain sight.
To Ramona‚ her boyfriend Don’s tales of conspiracy theories sounded like a movie. A lot of it didn’t make much sense‚ but Ramona would nod along anyway. Don enjoyed telling his stories and showing off what he’d read online. He always knew the answer.
The pair met while still in high school. They worked at the same fast-food place in Ramona’s hometown in western Tennessee. They started dating a few years later. Don was a big guy‚ good with engines‚ somebody who could fix anything. Ramona had always wanted to be a teacher and was enrolled at a nearby college. Sometimes she struggled with anxiety‚ but with Don she felt safe.
The couple moved in together as COVID-19 swept the globe. To Don‚ the pandemic and the global response to it were filled with clues pointing to some kind of conspiracy‚ orchestrated by America’s leaders and the media. Maybe the virus was accidentally leaked from a lab; maybe it was a bioweapon. Don also suspected the lockdowns had a nefarious purpose‚ and he believed the vaccines were unsafe‚ perhaps designed to kill.
Don’s wild stories had seemed innocent and even silly before‚ but in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic they suddenly seemed plausible. At a scary time‚ when questions about the virus outnumbered answers‚ the conspiracy theories filled in some of the blanks.
“I have a lot of fear about what I can’t control‚” Ramona‚ now 23‚ said of her vulnerable mindset as COVID-19 spread. Ramona agreed to tell her story to The Associated Press after she detailed her experiences on a forum for recovering conspiracy theorists. The AP is not fully identifying Ramona or her ex-boyfriend to protect her privacy and safety. “The stuff he was telling me‚ it made me feel like at least we understood. He had an explanation for what was going on. I didn’t realize what I was getting into.”
This alternate reality nourished by these conspiracy theories would transform Ramona’s life‚ sending her down a dark path of paranoia and loneliness that upended her life and spun her dreams of the future into turmoil. Convinced that a “New World Order” was already underway‚ she fell into a trap that has ensnared millions of Americans and even‚ at times‚ hijacked the nation’s politics.
Isolated from friends and family‚ distrustful of the explanations offered by officials and the media‚ Ramona and Don began to prepare. The military might try to put Americans like them in concentration camps run by the Federal Emergency Management Agency‚ or FEMA. They had to be ready to flee.
Ok‚ so why am I telling you this?
Because they’re passing that off as a brand new story on 1/31/24….and maybe it is. To be fair‚ maybe it is.
But notice how “Ramona” is all darkened out in the photo and seems very generic?
Also‚ notice how the story is wildly over the top?
Notice how it’s almost a caricature of what the Legacy Media thinks of “QAnon” (even though no such thing as “QAnon” exists?).
This is what they think of us — Patriotic‚ America-First‚ MAGA Americans.
But this over the top‚ fevered version shows just how much they despise and loathe us.
Maybe these are real people in the article but my Spidey Sense is up.
Here’s why….
Because that article which they are claiming to be about “Ramona” and new as of 1/31/24 reminded me EXACTLY of several other articles I remember reading.
Anyone remember this one?
Let’s take a snippet from that article and you tell me if this sounds a lot like “Donna” from 2024 to you.
Notice how even the titles are almost identical — they both had to “escape” the dark reaches of dangerous conspiracy theory beliefs!
Oh my!
From The Guardian:
Brent Lee struggles to explain why he used to believe that a cabal of evil satanic paedophiles was working to establish a new world order. He pauses‚ looks sheepish‚ and says: “I cringe at all this now.”
For 15 years‚ Lee collected signs that so-called Illuminati overlords were controlling global events. He convinced himself that secret societies were running politics‚ banks‚ religious institutions and the entertainment industry‚ and that most terrorist attacks were actually government-organised ritual sacrifices.
He was also inclined to believe in UFOs‚ and that Stanley Kubrick staged and directed the filming of the moon landing. He saw satanic symbols in the London 2012 Olympics opening ceremony and spent most of his time discussing these theories with an online community of fellow believers. But in 2018 something shifted‚ and he began to find the new wave of conspiracy theories increasingly implausible. “I was sick of it. I felt‚ I can’t deal with hearing this any more because it’s no longer what I believe‚ so I just logged off the internet‚” he says.
Now Lee is trying to help other conspiracy theorists to question their worldview. He will address a conference in Poland on disinformation in October‚ and has launched a podcast unpicking why he held these beliefs so fervently and why he was so deluded.
Amiable and articulate‚ Lee is disarmingly willing to admit that he got things spectacularly wrong‚ but it is still challenging to have a conversation with him about his abandoned belief system. Most of the theories seem so preposterous that the process of trying to understand them becomes exhausting. When I strain to follow the logic‚ he says: “Don’t try to get me to make it make sense because it doesn’t. This is why I get so embarrassed about what I believed. You just buy into this ideology and think that’s the way the world works.”
His reasons for abandoning the “truther” movement (truthers believe official accounts of big events are designed to conceal the truth from the public) are also hard to slot into a conventional worldview. Lee veers between feeling ashamed and amused by his own convictions while also pointing out that it would be a mistake to dismiss these ideas with an impatient eye roll‚ because they are very dangerous.
A 2020 poll found that 17% of Americans believed ‘a group of Satan-worshipping elites who run a child sex ring are trying to control our politics and media’
Versions of the same ideas have gained greater currency in the years since he stepped away from them. In the US‚ the influence of QAnon has shifted from the fringes to the mainstream‚ and social media has been flooded with the group’s misinformation. A 2020 Ipsos poll found that 17% of Americans believed that “a group of Satan-worshipping elites who run a child sex ring are trying to control our politics and media”.
Sound like “Lee” and “Donna” could almost be the same person‚ doesn’t it?
Oh but….that’s probably just another “Conspiracy Theory”! LOL!
Folks‚ this is Gaslighting and Brainwashing if you ask me!
The very stuff they always accuse MAGA of doing.
But wait‚ there’s more!
How about this one‚ remember this?
Is this guy friends with Lee and Donna?
Here’s a snippet from this article where they run the same story about this guy “Harry” but this time they mix in his penchant for violence (sound like J6 to you?).
From Reuters:
Until now‚ Anzbock’s identity‚ and his story‚ have remained a mystery. Reuters recently identified the 60-year-old‚ tracing him to a motorhome and trailers he owns on a swampy property behind a veil of trees in Pownal‚ a town of 3‚260 people. The lot was strewn one recent day with more than a dozen decaying cars‚ motorbikes‚ old boats‚ propane tanks‚ scrap tires‚ a mattress and dirty dishes.
In long exchanges with the two Reuters reporters – eight hours of phone interviews and more than 200 text messages – Anzbock described how he came to act on Trump’s claims of a stolen election and confirmed making the hostile calls. He said he did nothing wrong. “Nobody can touch me‚” he said.
Anzbock’s journey into American political extremism is in some ways distinctive. Born in Austria‚ he was a member of the renowned Vienna Boys Choir before emigrating to the United States as an adolescent. Remarkably‚ though he views himself as a defender of democracy‚ he’s never voted‚ not even for Trump‚ he said.
“This might be a good time to put a fucking pistol in your fucking mouth and pull the trigger … Your days are fucking numbered.”
Other aspects of his journey are emblematic. Like some blue-collar Trump supporters‚ he once leaned left. In his twenties‚ friends from that period said‚ he had an anti-government streak shared by many leftists. In his forties‚ Anzbock said‚ he liked the Democratic politics of Barack Obama but grew disillusioned.
Seven people who know him say Anzbock has long been irascible and prone to conspiracy theories‚ such as those surrounding the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. In recent years‚ he embraced a fast-growing universe of alternative media‚ including the video sites BitChute and Rumble‚ that claim to champion unfettered free speech and are filled with pro-Trump conspiracy narratives. He said he came away convinced that Trump was a victim‚ unfairly maligned by the media as racist and corrupt‚ and later cheated of victory.
Those ideas and dozens of other falsehoods permeated his exchanges with us. In conversations‚ Anzbock repeatedly urged Reuters to look into the claims and theories he espoused. So we analyzed his texts and conversations with us‚ and found that he cited 112 conspiracy theories or statements that were either untrue‚ misleading or unsupported by evidence.
“I just go on the Internet‚” Anzbock said. “It’s right there at your fingertips.”
Conservative media have amplified such conspiracy theories. And Trump and his associates wielded them after the election‚ helping spark the U.S. Capitol riot. These false narratives remain just as potent‚ some misinformation researchers say. “It’s a cultural and political moment‚” said Kate Starbird‚ co-founder of the University of Washington’s Center for an Informed Public. “Many of us have family members who are just so profoundly disoriented down these rabbit holes.”
Oh these “QAnon‚ Trump following‚ Conspiracy Theorists” surely are terrible people! Dangerous! We must get rid of them!
Is that the message I’m supposed to be getting from all these articles?
Seems like it to me.
Are Lee and Donna and Harry real people?
I have to take these reporters at their word that they are‚ but it sure does seem awfully weird they keep running essentially the same story over and over every 6 months or so….
Almost like there’s an Agenda to push.
But nah‚ come on now‚ that would be a CONSPIRACY THEORY!
We’ve already done three‚ why not do a 4th?
But wait‚ there’s more!
Of course the WaPo had to publish their own version of one of these:
Let’s read a portion of this one and you tell me if “Mom” sounds almost identical to Lee and Donna and Harry….
From the WaPo:
It doesn’t feel helpless. I felt that when Mom had weeks left and all I could do for her was sit and watch “30 Rock” reruns with her. And I feel that each time I remember why I try to forget about the aneurysm in my chest. This feeling ain’t that.
It’s more like failure. Like I did something wrong. Like dropping my house keys and watching them wash down a storm drain. It feels like — man‚ I can’t believe I’m about to say this — I’m Atreyu in “The Neverending Story‚” watching Artax sink in the Swamp of Sadness‚ while nothing he said or did could help him. How did I allow this to happen? Why haven’t I been able to get through to them?
I’ve read tweets and Facebook status messages and news stories from and about people who’ve dreaded contact with their friends and family members who’ve tumbled down covid-19 conspiracy “rabbit holes.” (Also‚ I don’t quite think “rabbit hole” is the right word here‚ because at least you see those coming‚ and they’re built for a good reason. These are more like sinkholes.) The precipice is usually the empathy void these people seem to possess‚ where they’re prioritizing their own politics over other people’s health. Sometimes it’s a skepticism of modern science. Sometimes it’s a white-nationalist-adjacent libertarianism. Sometimes it’s just some goofy-ass understanding of citizenship. Like someone just bought them a Fisher-Price: My First Freedoms toy set for Christmas.
But how do you dread the most empathetic person you know? The person who’d let you drag them out of an exam cram session to roll with you to the club on a damn Wednesday‚ because they know you just had a breakup and want to get back out there and have too much anxiety‚ too much fear‚ too much I-can’t-go-there-’cause-what-if-she’s-there to go solo? What if it’s the same person who called on your birthday to tell you how proud they are of you because that’s what they always do? Even if your previous conversation wasn’t quite a conversation‚ more like you telling them they sound like a QAnon parrot and them responding with a bunch of stuff about “The Gates Foundation” and “dark interests in medicine.” And then you wondering‚ for the first time‚ if that’s the last time you’ll speak? What if you almost killed them on their birthday 10 years ago? You had too much to drink‚ and they got in the car with you after you told them you were “straight.” You made it to where you wanted to go‚ sure. But you blacked out — the memory of the drive escaped your body and still hasn’t returned. You were doing that too much back then. Drinking too much‚ and driving sometimes after drinking too much. They forgave you for what you did. And that grace stopped you from ever doing it again. They saved your life after you almost ended theirs.
Look folks‚ I can smell and agenda when I see one and something STINKS here.
But that’s just my opinion.
As I said above‚ I have to trust these reporters and take them at their word that “Mom” and “Lee” and “Harry” and “Donna” are all super real people who fell into the DANGEROUS trap of supporting President Trump and luckily they all “escaped” — or at least most did. I didn’t read the whole article because (vomit)‚ but I don’t think “Mom” “escapted”. I think she died in her QAnon sins. How sad.
So….speaking of Conspiracy Theories why not end this article by tackling one of the biggest ones out there?
This should really send these Legacy Media writers into a tizzy….
Deal with this Legacy Media:
So…What’s The Motivation To LIE About The Shape Of The Earth?
I saw a post recently from a friend of mine (Awakened Outlaw‚ follow him HERE on Telegram‚ great stuff over there) that was written to “Flat-Earth Folks”….
So it immediately had my attention.
And honestly‚ I thought it was such a good question I wanted to respond to it here.
Here’s what it said:
On many levels‚ I agree.
Is this the be-all‚ end-all issue?
Are the other things on his list more important?
I’d love to share a bit of my perspective….
First off‚ can I just start by saying I’m not a “Flat Earther” 100%.
But I am curious and I am skeptical.
Is that ok?
Is that still allowed?
Is it still allowed to think critically and challenge what we are being told is true by the Powers-That-Should-Not-Be?
I ask that question first because often times the answer is NO with many people!
They can’t handle it!
They get so emotional and so “religious” on this topic that they get irrationally offended if you even want to ask questions.
But let’s assume we’re all on the same page and investigation and curiosity is permitted….
Ok great‚ moving forward!
Next I would say that I used to be you.
EVERYONE in the “Flat Earth curiosity” community used to be you!
We all grew up with the Globe in the classroom.
We all grew up watching Star Trek and Star Wars and wanting to be astronauts.
We just eventually saw a lot of things that didn’t quite make sense.
And one big thing (at least for me) is it appears to be impossible to “prove” the Earth is a globe without relying almost exclusively on two sources: Government and NASA‚ both of which are LOADED with Freemasons.
So if you want to get technical about it‚ that’s really all just one source.
And after red-pilling to so many Government lies‚ why would I suddenly trust them hook‚ line and sinker here?
So that’s the second thing.
But that’s all foundational background and it doesn’t really address the heart of the question‚ which I think is a really good one.
So why does it matter?
Well‚ perhaps this is foundational to ALL the other things listed in that Telegram post.
I would contend that whatever you believe about the shape of the Earth‚ if you read your Bible and take what it says literally about these things‚ you have an Earth that is stationary (the Sun‚ Moon and Stars are all described in dozens of places as moving‚ but the Earth never is even once)….
You have an Earth that has a “Firmament” over it….
You have 4 corners of the Earth….
You have the Earth described as a “Circle” in the famous Isaiah verse (not a ball or a sphere‚ although those words DID exist and could have been chosen)….
And finally and most importantly you have God sitting on his throne right above the Earth:
God sits on his throne above the circle of the earth‚ and compared to him‚ people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the skies like a piece of cloth and spreads them out like a tent to sit under. Isaiah 40:22
So‚ what’s the motivation?
What does the world look like and how do people act and treat others on a day-to-day basis if your world view is we are literally living in a sandbox obviously designed and created by God‚ with a Firmament over the top of it‚ and God very near‚ extremely close‚ sitting on a throne right above?
Now compare that to this world: we came from nothing by random chance‚ from (primordial) Goo to You via the Zoo (evolution)‚ there is no “God” anywhere in observable sight‚ and we are hurdling through the vastness of dark‚ empty space flying in circles endlessly and hopelessly and the more we travel the more we don’t find and God anywhere.
So it turns out there is actually a very good and deep spiritual reason why the Deceiver would want to lie about this‚ don’t you think?
But no one can explain it better than my friend Rob Skiba….
So allow me to now kick it over to him for a short video that does a much better job than I could do with written words.
Watch here:
Watch this short 5 minute video for more right here on Rumble:
And the full video where I pulled that clip can be found here if you want to watch it all — The Strong Delusion?
Another great explanation here:
Why would they lie about the shape of the Earth? pic.twitter.com/N8FURTGfWt
— PaulsCorner21 (@TNTJohn1717) September 8‚ 2022
So what do you think?
Seems like a good reason to me!
The bigger the lie the easier it is to sell?
Would this be the biggest one of all?
Because if it turns out we are in fact in a “Snow Globe” then that means there is most definitely a God who built it and he’s not off somewhere far away in space‚ he’s close.
VERY close!
Gee‚ it’s almost like Isaiah 66:1 has been telling us all along:
Thus saith the LORD‚ The heaven is my throne‚ and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?
That’s a very different image than a God who is distant or perhaps has left us or wandered off somewhere in the vastness of never-ending space or perhaps never existed in the first place.
If God is CLOSE‚ and if we are intentionally created and unique in the Universe‚ a whole lot of things suddenly look a lot different‚ don’t they?
Ok‚ so that’s the philosophical part.
Now you want to go deeper on the evidence?
Let’s go:
Let’s Dig In To….Flat Earth?
Buckle up my friends!
Many of you are not going to handle this article well.
Sorry‚ but my mission remains the same as it was when I founded this site in 2015: to shine the light on TRUTH‚ wherever that takes us.
So in this article we’re going to talk about the Earth‚ space and whether there is a massive cover up about the shape of the Earth.
Before you think I’ve gone completely crazy‚ all I ask is for you to look and see.
And as I always say‚ I report…YOU decide.
Also‚ before you think I’ve also gone crazy with the image up above‚ here’s the deal.
This is from a recent video uploaded by Sean over at SGT Report.
I’m sure MANY of you know SGT Report and have probably listened to a number of Sean’s videos.
I believe Sean is one of the absolute best interviewers out there.
He’s not crazy and he’s not afraid to let his investigation into a story take him wherever the truth goes.
So a few months ago‚ Sean started talking with these guys who run a channel called the Founded Earth Brothers.
It used to be Flat Earth Brothers but they changed the name to Founded Earth Brothers to reach more people.
Sean started interviewing them and in the early interviews you Sean comes right out and says he thinks “Flat Earth” is a crazy thing to even be talking about.
But then?
But then they keep talking and keep doing interviews and today Sean refers to himself as a “Globe as you’re told skeptic”.
This latest video is honestly one of the best interviews on any topic I have heard in a long time.
Incredibly powerful and I challenge anyone to watch this and not at least start to have some questions going off in your head about whether everything we have been told is a lie.
I can’t possibly put everything they talk about into one article but I’m going to hit a few high points that might cause you to say “huh?”
They did for me.
First up‚ did you know that despite ALL of our incredible technology and science and all the satellites and everything we have allegedly up in space‚ did you know that we don’t have ONE single photo of the Earth?
It’s true.
Now I know what you’re thinking‚ sure we do! I’ve seen the textbooks!
Except what you don’t realize is that EVERY single photo of the Earth that you’ve ever seen has a disclaimer by it saying it is a “composite image”.
Meaning they didn’t just click a button on a camera and snap the pic….instead they took a bunch of smaller images and stitched them all together in a computer program.
Not one single real photo of Earth exists.
And since they’re making these photos in a computer program‚ perhaps that’s why all of the images look so different over the years:
Yes folks‚ those are all images NASA has tried to tell you are of the Earth.
Crazy‚ you wouldn’t think it would change color so much now would you?
But we’re just getting started.
Did you know there is also no live video feed showing the FULL Earth spinning in space?
Nope.
There are live feed videos but it’s always just of a slice of the Earth. Very odd.
You’d really think that with all our trips to space and all our satellites‚ we could turn on a camera‚ snap a normal picture and turn on a live feed to see the whole globe‚ right?
And speaking of those space trips‚ did you know after we went to the moon in 1972 we just chose to never go back.
Think about it.
Does that make sense to anyone?
No‚ I’m not joking.
Here is NASA Astronaut Don Pettit in a very famous clip saying “we don’t have the technology to go to the moon anymore.”
Watch for yourself:
Anyone buying this?
When NASA astronaut Don Pettit was asked “Why haven’t we gone back to the moon” his answer was “We destroyed the technology used to go to the moon and it’s a painful process to try and build it back again” pic.twitter.com/S6HrivaOQN
— Rachel Mary ®© (@RachelMaryColl) December 20‚ 2022
NASA Don Pettit – We can’t go back to the moon‚ we destroyed that technology
There’s more technology in my smartphone than they had during the the 60’s moon landing dude. pic.twitter.com/FWaXxlFEJQ
— Wake Awake (@WakeAwake1) August 3‚ 2022
Senior astronaut Don Pettit says they destroyed the moon landing technology. Research #flatearth pic.twitter.com/4GtDxPLkex
— Flat Earth Zone (@FlatEarthZone) October 29‚ 2022
“I’d go to the moon in a nanosecond…but we’ve lost that technology…and it’s a painful process to build it back again.”Don Pettit-NASA
Help NASA reconstruct the lost moon landing technology. I’m donating an old foldup chair.How about you? pic.twitter.com/Gf216cWAth
— Persia اریایی (@roya21042019) February 5‚ 2022
Can you think of any other example in life where we found a new land and just chose to never return?
Or can you think of any other example where from 1972 to 2021 our technology went BACKWARD?
We had the tech to land on the moon in 1972 but we don’t have it now in 2021?
WAKE UP FOLKS!
I know this is going to be hard for many to believe and the cognitive dissonance is going to be STRONG on this article and I’m ready for it.
I know the comments section is going to probably be a cesspool.
That’s fine.
I still have to serve the Red Pill whenever it’s needed.
And this is the biggest Red Pill out there.
Why?
Because it gets to the question everyone ultimately asks when you talk about Flat Earth:Â Why?
Why would they fake this?
Why lie about this?
The answer is actually simple.
If we live on a still‚ flat Earth with a firmament over the top of it (like the Bible says we do) then we were obviously put here by a Creator.
But if we’re just a pale blue dot hurling through the vast emptiness of space‚ then we might just be random chance. No Creator. No God.
Simple.
I’ve only just barely scratched the surface so far with my comments‚ but the guys in the video do such a good job I want to turn you over to them.
My only request to you is you don’t comment on this article until you actually watch the video below from SGT Report.
Then comment.
Here you go:
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Let me know what you think!
And for the Flat Earthers out there‚ leave your best Flat Earth Proofs in the comments below too!
There are many….
I actually had Dave Weiss on my show recently too.
Here is that interview if you’re interested:
DAVE WEISS: Exposing The TRUTH About Where We Actually Live
DISCLAIMER!
DISCLAIMER!
This article is probably going to be one of the most controversial things I have posted in a long time.
And I’m ok with that.
I know some people will judge a book by its cover and immediately write this off‚ but I give you one caution before you do…
There is a famous quote I’d like to share with you that has been attributed to many different people over time‚ so I’m not sure who said it first‚ but it goes like this:
There is a principle which is a bar against all information‚ which is proof against all arguments‚ and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance – that principle is contempt prior to investigation.
Powerful.
Read that again and let it sink in.
If you want to remain in ignorance‚ write off an idea before you even look into it. Surefire way to stay uninformed.
Ok‚ so with that disclaimer out of the way‚ let’s jump in to this wild one!
I had a brand new guest on my show today over at The Daily Truth Report…Dave Weiss who goes by the name “Flat Earth Dave”.
If you got a little triggered at what I just typed‚ go back up and read that quote again.
Because here’s the deal…
My mission here from Day 1 has always been to follow the truth anywhere we find it.
And that is never more true than when the truth we find is (1) in direct conflict with what the powers-that-be want you to think and (2) in complete alignment with the Bible.
And that’s what we have here.
Mind blown yet?
We’re only just getting started.    and open I don’t love the term “Flat Earth” because it carries with it a lot of mockery and nonsense‚ but I do like the term “Biblical Model of the Earth”.
I also like doing my own research.
Dave and I chatted for over an hour and my goal was just to ask questions and open up the topic in a way that might lead many people to realize this isn’t crazy at all — and in fact‚ is much more legitimate than you may have ever imagined.
Some of the things we discussed are why can a compass only point north? Ever wondered that? If a compass is just a magnet‚ why do they only point north‚ why never a compass that points south?
Unless…it were not possible?
We break it down in the video.
We also talk about why perhaps the Georgia Guidestones HAD to be demolished right now…
Why?
Because they had a hole in the center that always lined up to the north star.
The only problem with that?
Science has been telling us the north star shifts each year by small degrees‚ but enough that over the 40 years that Guidestones were up that the hole should no longer have lined up — not even close.
Except….it still did.
Perfectly aligned.
Almost as if we lived on a still‚ flat Earth‚ with the sun‚ moon and stars set above us — exactly the way the Bible describes.
My favorite part was when we looked at the emergency landing of airplanes.
This is the one I think will probably open the most eyes.
Sixteen different examples of planes making emergency landings and guess what?
By their normal flight plans‚ they landed in places they should not have been anywhere close to.
Except…if you look at a Flat Earth model of the world‚ then they landed almost exactly where they were supposed to be‚ in a direct line flight path.
Sixteen of them!
I could go on and on‚ but I want to turn you loose to watch this one yourself.
Remember the principal from above before you watch:
There is a principle which is a bar against all information‚ which is proof against all arguments‚ and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance – that principle is contempt prior to investigation.
You can watch here on Rumble:
And for those YT fans…
Here on YouTube (if they keep it up):
You can find Dave online here:
Direct Link to The Flat Earth Sun‚ Moon &; Zodiac Clock app – https://qrco.de/bbizVA
Social Media Profiles:
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Twitter – https://twitter.com/thefepodcast/
Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/theflatearthpodcast/
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YouTube Channel: DITRH (Deep Inside The Rabbit Hole)
https://www.youtube.com/c/DITRH/videos
And now I’d like to dig in even more to what the BIBLE has to say about the place we live…
Through and through‚ the Bible describes a still‚ stationary‚ flat plane.
But don’t just take my word for it.
I want to give you some extra info from Rob Skiba who was an absolute genius when it came to this.
First‚ I want to address why this is even important in the first place.
Good question‚ right?
Why would yours truly even be spending any time on this?
From Rob Skiba’s TestingTheGlobe he answers that really well:
Before we begin‚ I must say it quite literally astounds me that Christians can’t see why this Flat Earth Controversy is important to nail down. Why does this matter? Well‚ just off the top of my head:
1) Genesis is the foundation of ALL that we believe in the Bible to be true. If Genesis is wrong‚ then it ALL crumbles under a faulty foundation. Genesis says NOTHING – zip‚ zero‚ nadda – about the Earth being set in motion (orbit or rotation) around the sun. In fact‚ the sun doesn’t even show up until AFTER the Earth is already in place with life ALREADY in existence. Genesis says the sun‚ moon and stars were placed INSIDE the SAME firmament within which that Earth was formed‚ not outside of it. Thus‚ we have a completely enclosed system‚ within which the sun‚ moon and stars move‚ NOT the Earth. You can Yoga-Jujitsu-Wrestle Mania twist and distort the text into pretzels all you want‚ but it won’t change what it says.
2) IF what we are seeing concerning the Flat Enclosed Earth thesis is true‚ then we are all there is. We are center stage. We are the main attraction and there can be NO argument as to whether or not there is a Creator. None. His existence could not possibly become more blatantly obvious than in this model.
3) IF the Flat Enclosed Earth thesis is true‚ evolution goes out the window and the theory of Ancient Alien seeders is obliterated. In this regard‚ I believe we become painfully aware of the Great Deception… and will NOT be fooled by it.
4) IF the Flat Enclosed Earth thesis is true‚ then we can NOT EVER trust NASA or the government about ANYTHING and we will finally be forced to fully trust YHWH’s Word as our sole source for truth and stop trying to bend and manipulate it to fit false paradigms.
5) If heliocentricity IS false‚ then Scripture IS true. If Scripture IS true‚ and can thus be taken literally‚ why should we not take it just as literal when it describes the earth as fixed‚ not moving‚ set on a foundation of pillars‚ carved as a “circle” with edge boarders inside something with four corners‚ enclosed under a dome?
The next question often tied to the first one is “Why would anyone lie about this?”
Again Skiba answers:
Along with those emotions comes an all too common question: Why?? What’s the motivation to lie to us about the shape and nature of our world? To me‚ the motivation is quite clear:
1) First get people to doubt YHWH’s Word by destroying the very foundation of our Bible: Genesis – specifically the Creation account.
2) Set up a new paradigm‚ where God is out and “science” is in. Evolution removes YHWH from the equation.
3) When evolution finally runs its course and becomes utterly bankrupt‚ introduce the idea of “Intelligent Design” but deny the True Designer His due credit and place it rather on “Ancient Aliens.”
4) Promote the Ancient Alien theme as much as possible in all forms of media by perpetuating the concept of Earth as a tiny “blue marble” orbiting an average sun in an average galaxy among trillions of other galaxies in an ever expanding Universe. With so much “potential for life to exist” in such a vast expanse‚ the idea of alien scientists being our creators seems a lot more plausible over time and heavy indoctrination.
5) The stage is set for our “alien creators” to return and bestow upon us their “miracles‚ signs and wonders” in order to convince us all the more that all religions are false. We then put our trust in them. Finally‚ when Christ does return‚ we are all convinced that He is the enemy and our united world gathers together to make war with Him.
Wow‚ sound familiar?
Sound like anything currently happening the world?
It does to me.
I said earlier that the Bible is a “flat earth book” through and through.
Now let me back that up.
Again from Skiba’s TestingTheGlobe‚ I give you all relevant scriptures:
Scriptures concerning the nature of the heavens/sky above and their relationship to the earth:
Job 9:
6 Which shaketh the earth out of her place‚ and the pillars thereof tremble.
7 Which commandeth the sun‚ and it riseth not; and sealeth up the stars.
8 Which alone spreadeth out the heavens‚ and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.
Job 22:14 Thick clouds are a covering to him‚ that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit {Hebrew: “chug”} of heaven.
Job 22:14 (HCSB) Clouds veil Him so that He cannot see‚ as He walks on the circle of the sky.
Job 22:14 (ASV) Thick clouds are a covering to him‚ so that he seeth not; And he walketh on the vault of heaven.
Job 26:
7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place‚ and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
8 He bindeth up the waters in his thick clouds; and the cloud is not rent under them.
9 He holdeth back the face of his throne‚ and spreadeth his cloud upon it.
10 He hath compassed the waters with bounds‚ until the day and night come to an end.
11 The pillars of heaven tremble and are astonished at his reproof.
12 He divideth the sea with his power‚ and by his understanding he smiteth through the proud. 13 By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent.
Job 37:18 Hast thou with him spread out the sky‚ which is strong‚ and as a molten looking glass?
Genesis 1:
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form‚ and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said‚ Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light‚ that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day‚ and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6 And God said‚ Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters‚ and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament‚ and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life‚ in the second month‚ the seventeenth day of the month‚ the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up‚ and the windows of heaven were opened.
Genesis 8:2 The fountains also of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped‚ and the rain from heaven was restrained;
2 Samuel 22:8 Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations of heaven moved and shook‚ because he was wroth.
Psalm 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Psalm 29:10 The LORD sitteth upon the flood; yea‚ the LORD sitteth King for ever.
Psalm 78:
21 Therefore the Lord heard this‚ and was wroth: so a fire was kindled against Jacob‚ and anger also came up against Israel;
22 Because they believed not in God‚ and trusted not in his salvation:
23 Though he had commanded the clouds from above‚ and opened the doors of heaven‚
24 And had rained down manna upon them to eat‚ and had given them of the corn of heaven. 25 Man did eat angels’ food: he sent them meat to the full.
Psalm 104:
1 Bless the Lord‚ O my soul. O Lord my God‚ thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty.
2 Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:
3 Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind:
Psalm 148:4 Praise him‚ ye heavens of heavens‚ and ye waters that be above the heavens.
Proverbs 8:27 When he prepared the heavens‚ I was there: when he set {Hebrew: “chaqaq”} a compass {Hebrew: “chug”} upon the face of the depth:
Proverbs 8:27 (ESV) When He established the heavens‚ I was there‚ When He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep.
Isaiah 13:13 Therefore I will shake the heavens‚ and the earth shall remove out of her place‚ in the wrath of the Lord of hosts‚ and in the day of his fierce anger.
Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth‚ and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain‚ and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Isaiah 40:22 (ISV) He’s the one who sits above the disk of the earth‚ and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers. He’s the one who stretches out the heavens like a curtain‚ and spreads them like a tent to live in‚
Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the Lord‚ thy redeemer‚ and he that formed thee from the womb‚ I am
the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
Isaiah 45:12 I have made the earth‚ and created man upon it: I‚ even my hands‚ have stretched out the heavens‚ and all their host have I commanded.
Isaiah 48:13 Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth‚ and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them‚ they stand up together.
Isaiah 66:1 Thus saith the Lord‚ The heaven is my throne‚ and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?
Ezekiel 1:26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne‚ as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.
Amos 9:6 It is he that buildeth his stories in the heaven‚ and hath founded his troop in the earth; he that calleth for the waters of the sea‚ and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name.
Amos 9:6 (ASV) it is he that buildeth his chambers in the heavens‚ and hath founded his vault upon the earth; he that calleth for the waters of the sea‚ and poureth them out upon the face of the earth; Jehovah is his name.
Amos 9:6 (ESV) it is he that buildeth his chambers in the heaven‚ and hath founded his vault upon the earth; he that calleth for the waters of the sea and poureth them out upon the face of the earth; the LORD is his name.
Amos 9:6 (Darby) It is he that buildeth his upper chambers in the heavens‚ and hath founded
his vault upon the earth; he that calleth for the waters of the sea‚ and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: Jehovah is his name.
Amos 9:6 (NASB) The One who builds His upper chambers in the heavens And has founded His vaulted dome over the earth‚
He who calls for the waters of the sea And pours them out on the face of the earth‚ The Lord is His name.
Scriptures concerning the nature of the earth below the firmament:
Job 9:6 Which shaketh the earth out of her place‚ and the pillars thereof tremble.
Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place‚ and hangeth the earth upon nothing. Job 26:10 He hath compassed the waters with bounds‚ until the day and night come to an end.
Job 28:24 For he looketh to the ends of the earth‚ and seeth under the whole heaven;
Job 37:3 He directeth it under the whole heaven‚ and his lightning unto the ends of the earth.
Job 38:
1 Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind‚ and said‚
2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee‚ and answer thou me.
4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare‚ if thou hast understanding. 5 Who hath laid the measures thereof‚ if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together‚ and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Job 38:13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth‚ that the wicked might be shaken out of it?
Genesis 1:
9 And God said‚ Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place‚ and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said‚ Let the earth bring forth grass‚ the herb yielding seed‚ and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind‚ whose seed is in itself‚ upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass‚ and herb yielding seed after his kind‚ and the tree yielding fruit‚ whose seed was in itself‚ after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
1 Samuel 2:8 He raiseth up the poor out of the dust‚ and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill‚ to set them among princes‚ and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are
the Lord’s‚ and he hath set the world upon them.
2 Samuel 22:16 And the channels of the sea appeared‚ the foundations of the world were discovered‚ at the rebuking of the Lord‚ at the blast of the breath of his nostrils.
1 Chronicles 16:30 Fear before him‚ all the earth: the world also shall be stable‚ that it be not moved. Psalm 18:15 Then the channels of waters were seen‚ and the foundations of the world were
discovered at thy rebuke‚ O Lord‚ at the blast of the breath of thy nostrils.
Psalm 75:3 The earth and all the inhabitants thereof are dissolved: I bear up the pillars of it. Selah.
Psalm 93:1 The Lord reigneth‚ he is clothed with majesty; the Lord is clothed with strength‚ wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished‚ that it cannot be moved.
Psalm 96:
9 O worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness: fear before him‚ all the earth.
10 Say among the heathen that the Lord reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not
be moved: he shall judge the people righteously.
11 Let the heavens rejoice‚ and let the earth be glad; let the sea roar‚ and the fulness thereof.
Psalm 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.
Psalm 104:
5 Who laid the foundations of the earth‚ that it should not be removed for ever.
6 Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains.
7 At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away.
8 They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto the place which thou hast founded for them.
9 Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth.
Psalm 136:
6 To him that stretched out the earth above the waters: for his mercy endureth for ever.
Proverbs 8:
27 When he prepared the heavens‚ I was there: when he set {Hebrew: “chaqaq”} a compass {Hebrew: “chug”} upon the face of the depth: – (ESV) When He established the heavens‚ I was there‚
When He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep.
28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29 When he gave to the sea his decree‚ that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Isaiah 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations‚ and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel‚ and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
Isaiah 13:13 Therefore I will shake the heavens‚ and the earth shall remove out of her place‚ in the wrath of the Lord of hosts‚ and in the day of his fierce anger.
Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth‚ and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain‚ and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Isaiah 40:22 (ISV) He’s the one who sits above the disk of the earth‚ and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers. He’s the one who stretches out the heavens like a curtain‚ and spreads them like a tent to live in‚
Isaiah 43:6 I’ll say to the north‚ ‘Give them up’! and to the south‚ ‘Don’t keep them back!’ Bring my sons from far away and my daughters from the ends of the earth—
Daniel 4:
10 Thus were the visions of mine head in my bed; I saw‚ and behold a tree in the midst of the earth‚ and the height thereof was great.
11 The tree grew‚ and was strong‚ and the height thereof reached unto heaven‚ and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth:
Jonah 2:6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption‚ O Lord my God.
Matthew 4:
8 Again‚ the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain‚ and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world‚ and the glory of them;
9 And saith unto him‚ All these things will I give thee‚ if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet‚ and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds‚ from one end of heaven to the other.
John 17:24
Father‚ I desire that they also‚ whom thou hast given me‚ may be with me where I am‚ to behold my glory which thou hast given me in thy love for me before the foundation of the world.
Revelation 1:7 Behold‚ he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him‚ and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so‚ Amen.
Revelation 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth‚ holding the four winds of the earth‚ that the wind should not blow on the earth‚ nor on the sea‚ nor on any tree.
Revelation 20:8 He will go out to deceive Gog and Magog‚ the nations at the four corners of the earth‚ and gather them for war. They are as numerous as the sands of the seashore.
Scriptures concerning the nature of the sun‚ moon and stars:
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together‚ and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Genesis 1:
14 And God said‚ Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs‚ and for seasons‚ and for days‚ and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day‚ and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth‚
18 And to rule over the day and over the night‚ and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
Deuteronomy 4:19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven‚ and when thou seest the sun‚ and the moon‚ and the stars‚ even all the host of heaven‚ shouldest be driven to worship them‚ and serve them‚ which the Lord thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.
Joshua 10:13 And the sun stood still‚ and the moon stayed‚ until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven‚ and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
Judges 5:20 They fought from heaven; the stars in their courses fought against Sisera.
Psalms 19:
1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
2 Day unto day uttereth speech‚ and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
3 There is no speech nor language‚ where their voice is not heard.
4 Their line is gone out through all the earth‚ and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun‚
5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber‚ and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.
6 His going forth is from the end of the heaven‚ and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.
Psalm 136:
7 To him that made great lights: for his mercy endureth for ever:
8 The sun to rule by day: for his mercy endureth for ever:
9 The moon and stars to rule by night: for his mercy endureth for ever.
Psalm 147:4 He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names.
Psalm 148:3 Praise ye him‚ sun and moon: praise him‚ all ye stars of light.
Ecclesiastes 1:5 The sun also ariseth‚ and the sun goeth down‚ and hasteth to his place where he arose.
Isaiah 13:9 Behold‚ the day of the LORD cometh‚ cruel both with wrath and fierce anger‚ to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth‚ and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
Isaiah 38:8 Behold‚ I will bring again the shadow of the degrees‚ which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz‚ ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees‚ by which degrees it was gone down.
Ezekiel 32:
7 And when I shall put thee out‚ I will cover the heaven‚ and make the stars thereof dark; I will cover the sun with a cloud‚ and the moon shall not give her light.
8 All the bright lights of heaven will I make dark over thee‚ and set darkness upon thy land‚ saith the Lord God.
Daniel 8:10 And it waxed great‚ even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground‚ and stamped upon them.
Joel 2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark‚ and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
Joel 3:15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened‚ and the stars shall withdraw their shining.
Amos 5:26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images‚ the star of your god‚ which ye made to yourselves.
Habakkuk 3:11 The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went‚ and at the shining of thy glittering spear.
Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened‚ and the moon shall not give her light‚ and the stars shall fall from heaven‚ and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Acts 7:43 Yea‚ ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch‚ and the star of your god Remphan‚ figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
1 Corinthians 15:41 There is one glory of the sun‚ and another glory of the moon‚ and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
Revelation 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand‚ and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
Revelation 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth‚ even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs‚ when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
Revelation 8:
10 And the third angel sounded‚ and there fell a great star from heaven‚ burning as it were a lamp‚ and it fell upon the third part of the rivers‚ and upon the fountains of waters;
11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters‚ because they were made bitter.
12 And the fourth angel sounded‚ and the third part of the sun was smitten‚ and the third part of the moon‚ and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened‚ and the day shone not for a third part of it‚ and the night likewise.
Revelation 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded‚ and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
Revelation 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven‚ and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered‚ for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
Again‚ applying no preconceived notions upon the text‚ how do you imagine a newcomer to the Scriptures would view the heavens‚ earth‚ sun‚ moon and stars just based on what you’ve read here? Would he see a spinning‚ heliocentric‚ globular Earth in an ever expanding universe? Or would he see something vastly different? I believe – without a doubt – he would see something completely different from what we’ve all been taught to believe. If this is not already abundantly c
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