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WATCH: RFK, Jr.’s True Speaking Voice REVEALED
Ever wonder what RFK, Jr.’s true speaking voice sounds like?
Or I should say “sounded” like?
Me too.
So I was fascinated to find this old interview I’m about to show you.
First, in case you don’t know the story, here’s some background behind why his voice is like this
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s voice has been affected by a condition known as spasmodic dysphonia, a neurological disorder that causes involuntary spasms in the muscles of the larynx, resulting in a strained or breathy voice:
Diagnosis and Onset: RFK Jr. was diagnosed with spasmodic dysphonia around 1996, when he was in his 40s. The condition typically develops between the ages of 30 and 50, and it’s characterized by its chronic nature, with no known cure.
Symptoms: His voice often sounds raspy or strained due to the muscle spasms in his voice box, which either tighten up (adductor spasmodic dysphonia) or stay open (abductor spasmodic dysphonia), affecting his ability to speak normally.
Treatments: Common treatments include Botox injections into the laryngeal muscles, which provide temporary relief by weakening the muscles and reducing spasms. However, RFK Jr. has mentioned being sensitive to Botox, experiencing a complete loss of voice post-injection before it gradually improves. He has also explored surgical options, although details on the success or type of surgery aren’t widely covered in the provided information.
Personal Beliefs on Cause: RFK Jr. has publicly linked his condition to flu vaccines, suggesting a potential connection based on his research during litigation against vaccine manufacturers. While he acknowledges there’s no definitive proof linking his condition directly to vaccines, he views it as a “potential culprit.” This perspective aligns with his broader skepticism towards pharmaceutical companies and vaccines, which he has discussed in various forums.
Public Perception and Impact: His voice condition has been a topic of discussion, especially during his political activities, including his presidential campaign. Despite the condition, RFK Jr. has noted that using his voice more tends to strengthen it temporarily.
Medical Perspective: From a medical standpoint, while the exact cause of spasmodic dysphonia remains unknown, it’s generally not linked directly to vaccine injuries in medical literature. However, RFK Jr.’s personal belief and his advocacy for questioning pharmaceutical practices highlight a broader debate on vaccine safety and side effects.
Also, you might only know Roger Ailes as the top Fox News Exec, but back in the 1990s he did interviews!
He was still fat though, even back then.
It’s a pretty incredible video and you can start to hear even back then his voice is starting to get a bit shaky in parts.
Watch here:
Full transcript:
[Roger Ailes]
I did one, okay. When he warns to “clean up your act,” he means that. When industry or the government doesn’t pay heed, he sues them. He’s the son of the late Robert F. Kennedy and Ethel Kennedy, and like his family before him, he’s determined to make a difference in the world. He already has. He’s a no-nonsense proponent of environmental law and has done a lot for the water here in New York. I see him out there, marching around the reservoir from time to time. A Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Bobby, why environmental law? Why did you say…
[RFK, Jr.]
You know, I was always interested in the environment from when I was a baby. I mean, I had racing pigeons by the time I was seven. I’ve been training hawks since I was 11 years old.
[Roger Ailes]
You’re a master falconer, I read. When you and I were in Africa in ’73, I thought you caught a hawk over there.
[RFK, Jr.]
I did catch a hawk, I think. Yeah, an augur buzzard, that’s what it was.
[Roger Ailes]
Yeah, okay. And you had it in the room for a couple of days. I went over to your room at the hotel there in… where were we? We spent six weeks in a tent together.
[RFK, Jr.]
That’s right. We spent six weeks, and I don’t think I ever wrote that down, but that was really… I took the rap, well, I did. I took these, but I really never did. But anyway, what was interesting was, in 1973, I think we spent time over there in Africa, and you captured this bird. I don’t know, it was a falcon with an augur buzzard. Was it just like the American red-tail hawk?
[Roger Ailes]
Okay, and I’d come to your room in the hotel, and this thing would be sitting on your arm, and you’d be staring at it for a long time. Is there some trick to staring at these birds? Is it…
[RFK, Jr.]
What are you… I was trying to get them to eat off my fist. That’s one of the initial steps in training them. If they do that, then they start to tame or so.
[Roger Ailes]
Right. But we took it out, and you let it fly away. I remember that.
[RFK, Jr.]
Yeah, we were there with a great man who was a great friend of yours, Lem Billings, who passed away just a few years ago.
[Roger Ailes]
I saw that when he was 81, yeah.
[RFK, Jr.]
In fact, I went to visit his grave this weekend, and it was his birthday. It was May 15. Lem Billings was a good friend of your uncle John’s, right?
[Roger Ailes]
He was President Kennedy’s best friend, and then he was among my father’s best friends after President Kennedy, and he sort of became your guardian, didn’t he? He kind of raised you, I think. He was almost a surrogate father to me.
[RFK, Jr.]
Right. Wonderful guy. And we had some great nights sitting around the campfire over in Africa, Lem and I, hitting a little scotch and talking… talking about your great future, and here you are, all these years later. When did your life turn around, and you decide, “Okay, I’m gonna go for this environmental law thing. I’m really gonna make a difference”?
[Roger Ailes]
When did that happen?
[RFK, Jr.]
In 1984. I went through a lot of personal difficulties, and I really, really fancied… that was a drug time that people knew about. And I was proud of you because I saw you go through that. I thought, “Well, a lot of people don’t turn it around.” How did you turn it around?
[Roger Ailes]
You know, I did what I was supposed to do, and I’ve been sober now for 12 years. And at that time, I was reading my life and decided to do what I wanted to do, which had always been the environment. And I integrated a lot of the stuff that I had learned in law school into my initial interest in the environment.
[Roger Ailes]
When you talk about the environment, everybody I know thinks they’re an environmentalist. I mean, Republicans, Democrats, they all will say they’re environmentalists. And there’s obviously a line that you can cross where you become so concerned about that… Right now, Al Gore wrote in his book that the cars are the most dangerous thing on the planet. I mean, maybe they are, but nobody’s gonna give them up. So where do you get to be a legitimate environmentalist, and where do you go too far?
[RFK, Jr.]
Well, my view is that we’re not protecting the environment for nature’s sake; we’re protecting it for the sake of humanity. We’re not protecting those northern forests for the sake of a spotted owl; we’re protecting those forests because we believe they have more value to humanity standing than they would have when they were cut down. The environment enriches us. It enriches us not just economically—although it’s the basis for our economy—but it enriches us spiritually and culturally in a lot of other ways that are difficult to quantify. And that’s really where you get into trouble, because there’s a strong drive in our society not to think about the future, to use up resources right now. Good environmental policy, 100% of the time, is good economic policy if we want to measure the economy on how it produces jobs and the dignity of jobs for generation after generation—in other words, sustainably. If, on the other hand, you want to take a break…
[Roger Ailes]
Bobby, sorry, excuse me. They’re gonna make a hard break here, and I want to come back. We’ll pick it up right there with Bobby Kennedy Jr.
[RFK, Jr.]
You know what’s interesting is, ask these environmentalists, would they prefer that those toxic wastes go into the air and you breathe them? Or would they prefer that you breathe them, or the fish eat them?
[Roger Ailes]
What’s he saying? I think… I don’t know what he’s saying.
[RFK, Jr.]
I’m terribly… what he’s saying is that you’ve got to put the toxic material someplace.
[Roger Ailes]
Well, I don’t know. I mean, yeah, if you’re creating toxic material, you’ve got to put it someplace. If the fish eat them, they’re gonna go into human beings. I don’t think that… I mean, I think that’s the point Rachel Carson was making. They were spraying DDT on to try to get the fire ants or the gypsy moths, but it was getting into the food chain and was bioaccumulating, and it was getting into us. We’re not worried whether the striped bass in the Hudson River have PCBs in them. We’re worried that those PCBs are going to get into children. And that’s, you know, that’s what I’m saying, is that the environmentalists are not… what I think most environmentalists are not out there saying that humans are… or that animals or nature are more valuable than humans. They’re saying we need them to survive. They enrich us. They enrich us in all these different ways. And what we’re fighting against is this impulse that says we’re going to treat the planet as if it were a business in liquidation. We’re going to convert all of our natural resources to cash. We’re going to have a few years of pollution-based prosperity, and we’re going to generate this illusion of a lot of cash and a lot of prosperity. But in the long run, we’re going to have to pay for that with denuded environments, with toxic cleanup costs that we simply can’t afford, and with economies that can’t be revived.
[Roger Ailes]
If you want to look at what would happen to nations, to our country, if we didn’t invest in the environment, look at the nations that didn’t do it. In 1970, we started investing in environmental infrastructure. Russia didn’t do that. China didn’t do that. Eastern Europe didn’t do it. Mexico didn’t do it. And now, you have in those nations environmental catastrophes that have matured into economic catastrophes, and there are entire regions of those nations that simply cannot be regenerated. Economically, they are write-offs. And what we’re saying is we have a duty to prosper. Every generation has a duty to use the resources that God gave us to prosper, but we don’t have the right to use resources that belong to the next generation. We have to maintain their choices intact for that generation. We can live off the interest, but don’t go into the capital. Don’t construct an economy that is based on the theory that you can sell the farm piece by piece in order to pay for the groceries. We want the farm intact, and we want that to be moved down to the next generation. And every environmental issue that you can think of is about that. It’s about sustainability.
[RFK, Jr.]
Why are they… I mean, there are extremists at both ends, though, aren’t there, Bobby?
[Roger Ailes]
Yeah, there are extremists at both ends, but there’s also a tendency by, for example, the people who wrote the Contract with America to employ an old debating trick, which is to mischaracterize your opponent’s argument and then react to the mischaracterization. And that is a lot of what I see going on in Capitol Hill. I mean, people are saying, “Well, we can’t have environmental protection because environmentalists put animals before people.” And that’s not what’s going on. Or they tell some anecdote about…
[RFK, Jr.]
It’ll put a lot of people out of work.
[Roger Ailes]
Well, but why were people… why? First of all, that is an exaggeration, okay? Just as…
[RFK, Jr.]
Well, let me answer that in two ways. One is the amount of people that were put out of work is exaggerated. What happened during the 1980s? More logs were cut in Washington and Oregon than at any time in history, and yet they lost 30% of their job base. But as the reason is, in America today, that we’ve ever had, we don’t have more old-growth. We’ve got about 5% of the original old-growth that we had in this country. Of course, other trees have regenerated, but those don’t have the kind of biological diversity that we have in the Pacific Northwest. So the question is, did we lose jobs because of the spotted owl? We lost some jobs, but we lost very few. The vast amount of jobs that have been lost in the Pacific Northwest have been lost to automation and because the resource is simply running out and because we’re exporting a lot of those logs overseas. Half of the Tongass National Forest, which is our biggest national forest, is being cut by Alaska Pulp and Paper, which is 100% Japanese-owned, and those logs are being shipped over and milled in Japan. And all the value-added, job-producing activities are taking place over there.
[Roger Ailes]
The other answer to that question is we didn’t… the battle over the spotted owl was a symbolic one. We used the spotted owl because we wanted to save those forests. We weren’t saving those forests for the sake of a spotted owl, but the spotted owl was the only hook that the environmentalists had in order to preserve a publicly owned resource.
[RFK, Jr.]
And I remember… but you thought the owls would live anywhere. After all this protection, they found out they didn’t know one tree from the other.
[Roger Ailes]
Well, that’s not true. I mean, they need old growth.
[RFK, Jr.]
Fifteen seconds to break here, but…
[Roger Ailes]
Well, they need the old growth, but the point is we weren’t preserving the old-growth forests for the sake of the spotted owl. We were preserving the old-growth forests for its own sake and using the spotted owl as a tool.
[Roger Ailes]
If you have any doubts about his interest in the environment, you’re going to see, when we come back after this message, a clip from a film we did together 20 years ago. Stay with us.
[Music]
[Roger Ailes]
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in 1973… were you 19 or 20, I guess?
[RFK, Jr.]
Yeah.
[Roger Ailes]
One of the Harvicks beat me pretty bad. Took off. I thought you were pretty fast, and the guy was sort of pacing, but…
[RFK, Jr.]
The other thing is that rhinoceros… it’s a trick that the Maasai warriors do when they’re sleeping around a rhinoceros. They get around and put a stone on it, right?
[Roger Ailes]
What people couldn’t see right out of that scene is that you almost killed me that day because I was with the film crew right behind you, trying to get that shot. And when that rhinoceros shot up and started running, you turned around and ran right over top of our guys. You can’t outrun a rhinoceros.
[RFK, Jr.]
But I could run faster than you.
[Roger Ailes]
Yeah, well, in those days, it would have been close, but it’s changed a little. Tell me about the New York water supply in a minute because we only have a few minutes left. I’ve got several questions I want to ask you, but I know you’ve been struggling with something wrong with the New York water supply. When we hear about it, we hear New York has the best water in the world. Why fool with it?
[RFK, Jr.]
Yeah, New York has historically had some of the best drinking water on Earth. It’s won taste tests, it’s bottled and sold in other cities, and it accounts for the incomparable taste of New York City pizza and bagels. It’s why they can’t be reproduced anywhere. But the water is now in jeopardy. A third of the water is now borderline quality. It has a lot of sewage going into it. The water that goes to some neighborhoods—Harlem, the South Bronx, Lower East Side, Hell’s Kitchen, and the Upper East Side—during the driest months, is about 3% sewage effluent. It would be illegal to put sewage into drinking water reservoirs in any other state. New York is the only state that allows that. And now, we have about 112 sewer plants that are discharging into the drinking water. The water violates federal standards during the summer. The Croton system has to be shut down, and the city is now faced with the prospect of either protecting the water supply or building a filter plant that will remove the pollutants. The filter plant will be a waste of money. It’ll cost $8 billion to construct, $300 million a year to operate. It will destroy New York City economically. And what we’re saying is, rather than investing that money in December of 1996, invest somewhere around $1 billion today to permanently protect the water supply from pollution.
[Roger Ailes]
How do you permanently protect it, quickly?
[RFK, Jr.]
You need to buy some land around the reservoirs from willing sellers, without using condemnation, so it’s something that people will accept upstate. You need to promulgate strong regulations that will stop the sewage discharges into the drinking water and stop other inputs of pollutants into the water.
[Roger Ailes]
Bobby, when are you going to run for office? Everybody wants to know it. I have to ask it. I’ve known you a long time. Frankly, I had my doubts about you 20 years ago.
[RFK, Jr.]
I had my doubts about you too.
[Roger Ailes]
Well, I don’t know. Will you run my campaign?
[RFK, Jr.]
Well, I promise Lem Billings… you know, Lem and I got a little drunk one night at a campfire, and he said, “I want you to keep an eye on Bobby for me.” And I said, “Don’t worry, if he needs anything, I’ll be there.” So I might have to help you.
[Roger Ailes]
Yeah, well, I’ll call you. I don’t know. I really… yeah, I’ve thought about it. I really live my life one day at a time, and, you know, right now, I love what I’m doing. It’s fulfilling to me, and I’m just gonna keep doing that until, you know, until the signs are right. If all of a sudden, something occurs to me that I was supposed to do this, I would. But I really try to do what I’m supposed to do, and do that one day at a time.
[Roger Ailes]
Are you liberal on most issues, or are you conservative on some?
[RFK, Jr.]
You know, I wouldn’t characterize myself with either of those labels. I’m kind of libertarian in some areas. I believe in free market economies. I believe if we had a true free market economy where we eliminated subsidies to people, we would not have the kind of environmental pollution problems that we have. So, I think I come from that perspective, which is not, you know… But at the same time, I believe that we live in a diverse society, and I think diversity is wonderful in every way. And so, I guess that’s kind of a liberal point of view.
[Roger Ailes]
Have you come to terms with the Kennedy legacy—the pressure or the greatness of the Kennedy legacy? It must have been a pressure on all the children, and I’m sure you went through a time saying, “Gee, can I do it? Can I live up to it? Should I do it?” Have you come to terms with that, or are you still wrestling?
[RFK, Jr.]
I mean, I recognize… I’ve got a good sense of who I am. I’m very proud of my father, my uncles, and the other members of my family, but I don’t feel competitive with them. I feel… I love what I’m doing, I love the gifts that I’ve been given, and, you know, I just… I feel like I want to use those in whatever way I’m supposed to. But I don’t have to do that against another backdrop of something that my father did with his gifts.
[Roger Ailes]
I lost my dad a few years ago, and I’ve always wanted to say a few things to him. If you could say something to your dad today, what would it be?
[RFK, Jr.]
I’d tell him thanks for all that he gave me, you know, and thanks for sticking with his own values to the end and putting his principles ahead of his self-interest. Because I think that was a… that’s a wonderful example for me, and it’s something that I’d like to leave with my children.
[Roger Ailes]
Bobby…
[RFK, Jr.]
Roger…
[Roger Ailes]
Great to see you again.
[RFK, Jr.]
Good to see you.
[Roger Ailes]
Okay, I’m glad you’re out of politics. It was too tough for you guys.
[RFK, Jr.]
All right.
[Roger Ailes]
Thanks for joining us. We’ll see you again next time.
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